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Abandoned Best 25 and P&H Shovel

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10 years 11 months ago #96798 by JasonPayneCrawlers
Replied by JasonPayneCrawlers on topic best 25
I am think I see the belt pulley on the ground near the 25

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10 years 11 months ago #96810 by janmeermans
Yes, Jason, I think I see it too. Looks like it was drive-shaft driven and maybe the wooden frame it must have been mounted on has disappeared. Do I have it right that the operator sat offset to the right of the machine? Otherwise he would have to sit astride of the barrel!

The old "Poor & Helpless" looks like it has lost it's motor but looks fairly intact otherwise.

Simi Valley is west of the San Fernando Valley which is just north of downtown LA. A lot of folks live nearby these old critters!

Jan

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10 years 11 months ago #96813 by Gregness
That drive sprocket looks brand new!

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10 years 11 months ago #96819 by Cat Spotter
Trail info and more photos here:

hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=19001

A major wild fire burned through the area in the early 2000's, which wiped out all wooden quarry structures, also burned right over the equipment. However by burning off the underbrush back to bare earth, it also made visible surviving remnants of the old access road, which had been hidden for decades. During that same time period, a large wilderness parkland was made of the area, which opened up hiking and public access throughout the region. If you google "Las Llajas Canyon", "Regan's Steam Shovel", or "Coquina Mine", you can find more which has been posted by hikers, mountain bikers, and photographers.

Our group hiked into the old quarry from the east and the south, roughly following the original access road. Much of this road, treacherous to begin with, has either washed out, slid away due to old landslides, or become overgrown with brush. The foot trail leading to the quarry sometimes gets quite narrow, in some stretches just a notch cut along steep slopes.


- Richard

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10 years 11 months ago #96827 by Steve A
So how would a person go about acquiring one of these, arrange purchase of course then removal. Are wheeled or tracked vehicles allowed here now ? If it was allowed could a say a LGP D4 drive in there and pull it out? If it would roll. I am sure dragging it 5 miles would be out of the question It would take a serious Helicopter to haul one of those out at major expense.

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10 years 11 months ago #96835 by terrywelch_archive
Mike Furgason moved a Bucyrus Steam crane out of a pit in Canada that was about 8 miles in with no roads that could be found. He rented a dozer, went in and cut his roads and pulled it out. I do think it was not as rough as the area these two are in.
Terry

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10 years 11 months ago #96839 by Oil Slick
Sounds like a good job for the Mighty D4!

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10 years 11 months ago #96845 by Gregness
I hate to say it but if that area has been turned into anything like a park, only a ridiculously expensive helicopter operation is going to get that old Best out of there. No way the local greeners are going to let a road be cut in there, and the cost of putting one in looks to be prohibitively high in any case. But you guys knew that! Oh well...

G

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10 years 11 months ago #96846 by neil
Drop this into google maps: 34.320339,-118.673761 and then zoom right in. Couldn't quite make out the tractor but the P&H is clear (I think : )
Cheers,
Neil

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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10 years 11 months ago #96869 by Cat Spotter
Neal. you're spot on, but Bing shows the terrain a little clearer than Google Earth. I've marked where the equipment is.

After downing a few beers while relaxing from the exhausting hike up and back from the quarry, our group of old fart gearheads thought the basic concept of running a small dozer up the existing trail, widening it where needed, and then towing the Best back down off the mountain, strapped to skids, might succeed. However this would take substantial dozer work, done by an operator experienced doing slope jobs, as some stretches traverse old landslides and other potentially unstable earth slippages.

But since this is wilderness area public park land, we reluctantly concluded that official permission to do all this dirt work realistically could never be obtained.

So we finally figured our best plan was that we should all hike up there again, and then throw one guy off the cliff. After calling 911 and requesting the victim be airlifted out, say, "Oh, by the way, as long as you're coming anyway, could you send a larger copter so we could also lift out an old tractor at the same time?"

- Richard



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