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14 years 9 months ago #41539 by Atlas
Replied by Atlas on topic Alas
Thanks guys it seems the auger flow problems can be sorted with some washers and a grindet. It just goes to show how little i know about combine settings after sitting on a harvester for 40 years and loving every minute of it but never seen hills as steep as yours in harvest.This is a great webb full of education .Riding a harvester must be as good as any rodeo on your ranches. Atlas

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14 years 9 months ago #41542 by Bleedinred
Right on 98J, after fighting poor feeding with 6602 combines years ago Stueckle's book came out and guess what? Most of those flighting braces were welded on at minus degrees. :mad: It was quite a hassle to cut and reweld the braces but it worked almost like a dream after that. We had to account for the fact that the auger tubes themselves were way out of round, limiting what you could do with stripper adjustment, but Ray knew what he was talking about. Ever run across that problem with the old red machines? Been so long since I ran one I can't remember how they fed.

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14 years 9 months ago #41546 by North Idaho Farmer
Woody- you must be confused, those were not my pics, but bleedinreds that had the tanks on the combines so he will have to answer for you.

Ray Stueckle did have some really good ideas for those old combines, had about every modification he recommended done to the 95Hs, and they seemed to really help.


Will hopefully shoot a few new cat pics tomorrow guys, no farming yet though. Just got all the dead trees and blowdowns felled out in our timberland today going to be working in the woods skidding logs out with the cats while its froze up hard in the morning starting at O'dark 30.

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14 years 9 months ago #41560 by Art From De Leon
You can take this for what it is worth, and you probably already know about it, but I read on the Red Power board, that they sell 'tabs' that clip onto the platform auger flighting to improve feeding. Some people replied that they use a lockwasher slipped over the flighting and that it accomplishes the same thing.

I don't think I am smart enough to run any combine, much less one of the new ones, with all the electronics. The last 'modern' tractor that I ran was a JD 4960, which I ran a couple of hours as a 'test drive' after I was sent out on a service call. He had left it set in a field he was disking, and after I did the repair, I went ahead and disked some more, (I hope in the right places)

It just amazes me what can be programmed into the operations of the new tractors, when the 8000 series JD tractors came out, the dealer sent me to the introduction, and I thought programming the SCV's was complicated. I don't know how a person can memorize all the capabilities of these new machines, much less use them.

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14 years 9 months ago #41562 by 98j

NIF & 98J
Some more great picutres. Thanks again for sharing.:)
Hey NIF on some of the 6622's your neighbors were running I see a small tank
mounted behind the grain tank on top of the rear hood, is that for extra fuel or whats its purpose?
98J that is a lot of weight on the back of the 2388, are the newer 8010 etc running that much rear weight with a Hillco Leveler?
NIF and 98J what ever happened to the Cab Manufacture Comfort King? Most all of the old 95H's that had cabs used them. Where were they based out of? Washington somewhere would be my guess.
A great thread, very enjoyable.:)
Woody


Woody, ya Little Dickens. Nope, the 8010 is not running that much weight
on the rear axle. Fluid in the tires, but no counterweights. The 8010 is balanced better, fore & aft, than the 2188/2388 series. And the good folks
over at Hillco managed to end up with the drivers slightly ahead. Still, given
the new style of leveler ( tires not vertical) and all that weight, the back end
wants to fall off down the hill:



A couple of things here......in the above shot, going across a slope, the ballast fluid in the rear tires works against the machine; it just makes the
back end start to fall off faster. Also, in this shot, the grain tank is fairly full &
that weight adds to the problem. In this next shot, the machine has just
unloaded......it's lighter, so the combine is holding up on the hill better.



Closer. The 8010 has hit the max level of 27% and is leaning over a little to
it's right. The rotor doesn't care ( in terms of grain loss) The 8010 has a
self leveling cleaning shoe ( side to side) so it is still level. ( if not kept level,
the grain being cleaned on the shoe would run to the downhill side, overload
the shoe and cause a loss of grain)



Further down this ridge, the ground is a little softer, the grain tank has now
got more weight on board, and the rear end starts to fall off some.



The main reason for weight on the back axle of coarse is help keep things
where they are supposed to be during down hill operation. The goal is to limit
the down hill stuff and lay out the fields on a contour. But every so often you
have no choice...like this one where the 8010 is cutting out a strip that connects two fields.By the time you hang that big 36 foot Flex Draper platform out front, there is quite a bit of weight to counter.



He is coming off of this hill light....not a good idea to try it with a full grain tank. This is a little steeper than it looks in this shot ( the camera tends to
flatten things a bit) Early in it's time on the ranch, the boss climbed in for a ride to check out his investment. They started down a hill with a tad too much weight on.......turned the steering wheel and nothing happened. So....
the operator is pretty particular about weight now when he heads downhill.



Better get some Green Paint in here; NIF should be back in soon from playing
Paul Bunyon & we wouldn't want him to go into defib because of too much
Red Paint. :rolleyes: Another Hillco equipped machine.....my son-in-law's
9760. Not quite as big as the 8010, but still pretty heavy. From what I have seen, the diamonds all the way around on his combine really help with the stability in the conditions around here. Really well balance fore & aft; much
more so than his old 2388 with all the rear axle counter weights seen above.
Dropping in to the truck landing here with a nearly full grain tank in the early
evening.



Comfort King?? I want to say Colfax for a location......haven't heard about
them in years. They did build some nice cabs. The cabs on my D4 & D6 were
home made.....the one on my D5 was made by Pringle.

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14 years 9 months ago #41566 by 98j

Thanks guys it seems the auger flow problems can be sorted with some washers and a grindet. It just goes to show how little i know about combine settings after sitting on a harvester for 40 years and loving every minute of it but never seen hills as steep as yours in harvest.This is a great webb full of education .Riding a harvester must be as good as any rodeo on your ranches. Atlas


Yup. And like a rodeo........sometimes ya get bucked off your horse: :eek:



This took place back in 2000 to one of my neighbors, in a field just north of
my place.Running an out & back pattern from the truck landing at the top
of the hill, he was turning around to head back......half full.....turned up
hill....hydrostat stalled ( should have been in 1st gear instead of 2nd) When
he dumped the clutch to shift gears, bad things started to happen. He was pretty close to the edge, so he didn't have a lot of room to play with. The
machine started backwards.....got on the brakes......slid on the straw. Ended
up teetering on the edge......until the platform unlatched and the machine went over backwards. Look close & you will see the platform up in the shadows up at the top. The operator (who survived) was ejected....watched the machine fly over the top of him.......told me it flipped like three times before it came to rest in the bottom of the canyon. Fortunately, no fire as the operator couldn't move. Pretty banged up, but he made a full recovery.



The separator was pretty well thrashed:



They did pick a few spares off of it. And the platform lived to fight another
day. A little TLC, and it was paired up with a new 2388 the next season.
The operator was recovered in time to take the reigns by the next season.
A little more careful with the uphill turns after this episode. ;)

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14 years 9 months ago #41589 by Tad Wicks
98J, great pix. My wife's folks used to live West of the tri-cities WA. we used to go there by way of hwy97 through Shaniko to Biggs, I just fell in love with Grass Valley and Moro, well I guess everything from Shaniko to the river. We came through there one Christmas when the windshield wipers froze to the glass and the fog was freezing to the mirrors around Kent, unheard of in central CA.
I own a 453 that I bought a year old in 1975, I was 19 at the time and had a heck of a time getting a note on the machine because I wasn't 21. I started with a 403 and worked up to the 453 and she is still going, she shows a lot of wear, but still has the original engine, 10-12K hours? I don't really know, but I do know she has been with me through drought and ditches and served me well, I couldn't even guess how many acres, I used to see one sitting in a boneyard on the East side of the road just North of Moro ( or somewhere through there) as I recall (it has been a while). I made mods to mine, the best one being the Delrin straw walker blocks that I developed, the wood ones would need changing almost every year, the Delrin blocks have been in there since 1978 and still going. I know that these old machines are not even a fly speck to the new ones but for what I do, it will have to do. The combine buisness evaporated in the mid 80's with CRP and has never come back. I still farm seed crops (oats and beardless barley) and she does just fine still making her way around the pinnacles I call farm ground, it is great to see pictures of huge crops, very uncommon to this area, we just don't get the rainfall. In the good book, Genesis 7,the story of Noah, it rained for forty and forty nights and a great flood was cast upon the earth............................... Shandon got a half inch:) :) Gosh it is great to see real bulk trucks moving reals crops, stuff you just didn't see here.
Where do you go for IH parts, Redmond or Pendelton or Walla Walla? I really did like it Redmond-Madras area as well.
I have a cousin that farms on the Umatilla Indian Reservation just East and South of Pendelton close to Pilot Rock, not to far from the casino on "84". Just a tidbit of info.
Thanks Tad

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14 years 9 months ago #41593 by Bleedinred
Woody, those are spray tanks on the 6622s, used to reap pain and suffering on morning glory and put a semi scare into Canada thistle. :D Nozzles are mounted behind headers and under combine frames, push button on header lever, pressure gauge on side of cab, elec. pump and regulator below hyd. tank. Works slick, especially in legumes to clean out some junk before winter wheat seeding. Another one, put elec. motors on cleaning fan speed adjust shaft to change from cab on the go, something Deere should have done itself on this model.

Pictured, the company D5, 1975 model 98J
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14 years 9 months ago #41594 by cr
Looking at the last set of photos it's amazing the operator and platform survived!

Here is how we harvest beans and peas out here.

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14 years 9 months ago #41596 by cr
peg tooth cylinder

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