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14 years 9 months ago #41611 by gary in CA
CR,is that one of Hoffmans Price Turnapulls?They had Price and we had CB Hay.

And a New Holland TR85 harvesting barley
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14 years 9 months ago #41613 by 98j

98J, great pix. My wife's folks used to live West of the tri-cities WA. we used to go there by way of hwy97 through Shaniko to Biggs, I just fell in love with Grass Valley and Moro, well I guess everything from Shaniko to the river. We came through there one Christmas when the windshield wipers froze to the glass and the fog was freezing to the mirrors around Kent, unheard of in central CA.
I own a 453 that I bought a year old in 1975, I was 19 at the time and had a heck of a time getting a note on the machine because I wasn't 21. I started with a 403 and worked up to the 453 and she is still going, she shows a lot of wear, but still has the original engine, 10-12K hours? I don't really know, but I do know she has been with me through drought and ditches and served me well, I couldn't even guess how many acres, I used to see one sitting in a boneyard on the East side of the road just North of Moro ( or somewhere through there) as I recall (it has been a while). I made mods to mine, the best one being the Delrin straw walker blocks that I developed, the wood ones would need changing almost every year, the Delrin blocks have been in there since 1978 and still going. I know that these old machines are not even a fly speck to the new ones but for what I do, it will have to do. The combine buisness evaporated in the mid 80's with CRP and has never come back. I still farm seed crops (oats and beardless barley) and she does just fine still making her way around the pinnacles I call farm ground, it is great to see pictures of huge crops, very uncommon to this area, we just don't get the rainfall. In the good book, Genesis 7,the story of Noah, it rained for forty and forty nights and a great flood was cast upon the earth............................... Shandon got a half inch:) :) Gosh it is great to see real bulk trucks moving reals crops, stuff you just didn't see here.
Where do you go for IH parts, Redmond or Pendelton or Walla Walla? I really did like it Redmond-Madras area as well.
I have a cousin that farms on the Umatilla Indian Reservation just East and South of Pendelton close to Pilot Rock, not to far from the casino on "84". Just a tidbit of info.
Thanks Tad


Pinnacles eh?? Dig out the Kodak & let's see some shots of the 453 in action.
Frozen fog.....yup........get some of that from time to time:



Here....how about a truck fix...78KW, 8V92, 13 speed......recently converted
to 8 bag suspension ......a great wheat truck.



...waiting for another hit from the 8010........



We get IH parts from Morrow Co. Grain Growers in Wasco, Oregon........my
friend Rand Mc Nally told me that there is a Wasco on the other side of I-5
from you.....any trouble getting stuff for your 453???

Tri Cities eh?? Remember that place on the right as you drop in to Kennewick
on US395?? Until recently anyway they were farming a big chunk there on
steel ( remember the start to this thread??:rolleyes: ) I remember several
D5's & D6's parked there at their HQ right off of 395.......also saw an AG6
working in there on the west side of 395.

Have you had to deal with vineyards there in your area?? Have a couple now
down near The Dalles. Boy are they fun to deal with. They think the entire
universe revolves around them......never met a lawsuit they didn't like. We have lost the use of some chemicals because of them.

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14 years 9 months ago #41614 by 98j

Woody, those are spray tanks on the 6622s, used to reap pain and suffering on morning glory and put a semi scare into Canada thistle. :D Nozzles are mounted behind headers and under combine frames, push button on header lever, pressure gauge on side of cab, elec. pump and regulator below hyd. tank. Works slick, especially in legumes to clean out some junk before winter wheat seeding. Another one, put elec. motors on cleaning fan speed adjust shaft to change from cab on the go, something Deere should have done itself on this model.

Pictured, the company D5, 1975 model 98J


Cool idea, the spray tanks on the combine. What are you using?? Glyphosate??
Ever tried Curtail ( www.dowagro.com/usag/prod/004.htm ) on the Canada Thistle?? We have had great results with it ( I think I hate CT even
more than I do MG)

Here is a fun little tool that we use at SRS Ranches...a Weed Seeker. Seen
here behind a 65B:



The heads lay down a beam of light to the ground.....when the light is reflected back from a weed, it triggers the spray nozzle, hits the weed, then
shuts off till the next one.



Look closely at this shot.....The unit in the center (w/ the red light on) has been triggered and is spraying; units to either side are off. The Weed Seeker
LOVES Morning Glory. Saves a ton on spray costs




So, on your set up.....you see a patch and then hit the button on the platform lift ?? That heats up all the nozzles at once?? Do you have much
trouble with the dust from the combine bothering the action of the chemical??
Really like the idea.....

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14 years 9 months ago #41615 by North Idaho Farmer

Woody, those are spray tanks on the 6622s, used to reap pain and suffering on morning glory and put a semi scare into Canada thistle. :D Nozzles are mounted behind headers and under combine frames, push button on header lever, pressure gauge on side of cab, elec. pump and regulator below hyd. tank. Works slick, especially in legumes to clean out some junk before winter wheat seeding. Another one, put elec. motors on cleaning fan speed adjust shaft to change from cab on the go, something Deere should have done itself on this model.



The sprayer idea does seem good, never seen anyone do that around here. We typically spot spray with the four-wheeler after harvest for the canada thistles. Morning glory is only a problem on a small acreage down at the lowest drier fields. Morning glory doesnt like most of our ground which up on top 3,000ft its too cold and wet, the thistles love it though. I would be concerned that during a hot harvest day the plants would be semi-dormant and wouldnt absorb the chemical well as a on a cooler fall day after a rain.

Using roundup or maybe curtail with a light rate of tordon?

The idea I really like is the fan speed adjustment from the cab, sounds like a good setup.

Thats a nice looking cat, your soils must be abrasive enough to benefit from the air scoop? Nobody at all ever runs them on the cats around here. Sand content of our soils is extremely low so not very abrasive at all.

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14 years 9 months ago #41616 by Atlas
Replied by Atlas on topic Atlas
98J Hey i like the weedseeker idea. i guess the environmentalists will love it too? who manufactures the machine . How do you guage the width i cannot see any blobers ie foam marks. Atlas

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14 years 9 months ago #41618 by SJ
Replied by SJ on topic New Holland
New Holland machine & equip. Co. is located here in Pa.at New Holland near Lancaster in the central southern part of Pa.about a 125 miles from here.Years ago I worked for a farm equip.dealer and he sold New Holland machinery and their hay balers were a good seller back then in the late 40s and early 50s at his dealership.

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14 years 9 months ago #41621 by 98j

98J Hey i like the weedseeker idea. i guess the environmentalists will love it too? who manufactures the machine . How do you guage the width i cannot see any blobers ie foam marks. Atlas


NTech Industries ( www.ntechindustries.com/weedseeker-home.html )
makes the units. We mounted them on a re-vamped Summers wing up sprayer.





Originally we used foam markers.......( blobers......I like that :) )



Now a GPS unit is used for guidance.

The last thing that those pesky weeds sees:



Checking things out while underway:

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14 years 9 months ago #41630 by Tad Wicks
98J, do you know the difference between God and a grape grower??????


God never tries to impress upon people that he is a grape grower!!!!!

Yes we have plenty of vineyard here and yes everything here bows to them and their desires, they pretty much control all that is, I refer to them as "Grapists and Winers" but there are some really good people involved there also,
oh and yes, I have about 15 acres of dryland Zinfandel myself, my wife and I refer to it as ''vitri-torture'', our grapes will be left to fend for themselves this year, I am tired of breaking even with them, I can sit on my backside and do that without the fight and hassel,
You are probably going to have to wait another year for any 453 pics, I dry seeded this year

WARNING WARNING WARNING
the videos you are about to see contains no cat equipment or cat yellow paint (except the Trackson loader at the top of the hill:D ) if you are offended by such lack of content please refrain from viewing them:D :D Yeah, Yeah I know, it is a Cat website :D :D

A HD-7 I dug out of the neighbors bone yard for fun





the 11 before and after





there are several more videos if you look for them:)

around Thanksgiving and then came a very hard rain, only about 1/2 a crop has come up and is full of fireweed, I don't know if I got the seed too deep with the press wheel drills plus heavy crusted ground (we have heavy Adobe Clay), all I know is that there is no crop there and I haven't been able to get back in the field to re-seed because of the rain (the rest of the world must really be flooded:D ), so, at any rate it looks as though I will probably turn everything under for a green manure crop and try again "next year" The old timers always refered to this area as the best ''next year country'' there is :D
I do remember the guys that farm just South of Kennewick, they farm everything back and forth instead of round and round and I didn't know why, right there between Coffin Rd and Kennewick, ( the farmers South of Prosser and the Horse Heaven hills do the same thing must be because of wind????) as I recall they had a really nice set-up that you could see from the road, I don't recall seeing anything working in the fields but it seems to me I remember a Challanger sitting at their shop but I am not sure.
We have never driven through Wasco OR because the hyway goes around it, next time I plan to go through it, I would like to spend some time just diving around that area, it seems as though we are always in a hurry to get where we are going, I do remember a MF dealership in Grass Valley. Parts for the 453??? most of them I end up making anymore but the 615 and 715 are the same machine sans leveler and the Midwest seems to have quite a few of those for used parts, but sometimes I still have to scrounge a bit. Thanks for the pix,Tad

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14 years 9 months ago #41631 by Bleedinred
On THE WEED SEEKER do you pre-set each unit's sensitivity so it triggers only on the nasties? That's really a good tool, probably payed for itself in a short time covering the acres you guys do. What is the approximate cost per unit?

Curtail or Banvel usually goes in the combine sprayers, sometimes with some gypho in wheat, but Tordon doesn't find its way on this farm's ground anymore. Too much residual in the legume fields. Yes, hot days are not ideal for this but there has been enough success, especially in the grass fields, to make it worthwhile. I would say right now that thistle control in the grass fields is a big ??? When we were able to burn they were there but not in the numbers we see now. It's either kill the grass to get them or swath them when the seed is ready--that sets them back for a while, then they seem to come on stronger. Most grass fields up our way go three years, then hit them heavy with glypho and work 'em fairly hard. I've got a field of mine that just reeked of thistle its last two years of bluegrass so this year its going into alfalfa. Big experiment here in thistle control, maybe... And yes, hit the button and you get a 16' or 22' spray pattern, depending on which header is on.

NIF, Grainger or Harold's Electric has the electric motors with gear reduction. The hookup is just a Lovejoy coupler and a couple pieces of flat to hold it up there. Cab control is a two way toggle switch for F/R.

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14 years 9 months ago #41633 by Bleedinred
Hey Tad, are some of the Deffenbaughs still farming in the Horse Heavens? Years ago some teacher friends of mine were combine jockeys for Al and his son. I went out there one day and couldn't get over the D6s and 7s they were running.

Further up this post I mentioned my daughter and husband are grape growers/wine makers up the Potlatch River valley east of Lewiston. Their land is surrounded by tribal or DNR land so they don't have to deal with spray drift, one of the reason they bought this place. I concur that the amount of work required for the end result is obnoxious. Fifteen acres is a lot if you want it pruned right and have to do it yourself--do you have any future plans for it?

What engine is in your 453? I spent quite a bit of time on one of those a century ago.

OK, keeping it yellow, who can give me a run down on Ag6 controls? I'm a little lost here. Steering clutches and shuttle on left side?
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