NIF and 98J great pic's really enjoyed this thread.
NIF intersting modification to the rear of the 6622, what does the flex tube connect to? Auxiliary Fan driven off the walker drive? Where are you directing that air?
Looks like some work ahead of you on the pea header, are you going to fab up some new header pans??

Good stuff guys, thanks again:)
Woody

NIF, nice pictures and stories from the Clearwater area. That's our daughter and son in law that are growing grapes and making wine down at Arrow Junction, just south of Julietta. Grapes are quite a change of pace for me as I have helped out on a farm for many, many years in the Fairfield, WA area. Pretty much the same crops as you have listed here but maybe a little more moisture and a few less rocks, in most places. Used to be a lot of bluegrass on this place and when the market comes back I'm sure we'll be back into production on a larger scale. It's a green and yellow farm, has been forever, until I "infected" it a few years ago with a couple of red tractor projects, which now mostly sit in the shed. Again, thanks to you, 'ole 98J and others for making this a fine thread.

A few more shots for the good of the order. The spray outfit was out of the strip south of Troy a couple of springs ago. Maybe you recognize the owner?

The Challenger on the farm is the 7th one built, I believe and it works good on this Richardton bankout wagon. It'll go about 14 feet high when we load Jacklin trailers with grass seed.

The 6622s are 1983 models, bought new in '85 and '86 as carryover machines. One just under 6,000 hours, the other around 5,500 and both have original engines, hydros and transmissions. We replaced two finals over the years plus the usual stuff, added horizontal clean grain augers like yours, unloading auger extensions, spray tanks and nozzles behind the headers, etc. The front machine is a 9500 SideHill which only levels 17% so the 22s do the brunt of the hill work.

I've really enjoyed this thread!

Bleedinred, that's the wildest bank-out wagon I've ever seen. That's pretty cool, you just cycle the hydraulics and the thing is unloaded.

NIF and 98J, are there many of the 7722's in your area? As I recall, JD sent incomplete flatland machines to your area and a local installed the leveling system. Was it Hanson? Anyway I'd like to know more about them as none of them ever made it to the central coast of CA. I did notice that the leveling ram on the 7722 is positioned somewhat like the older Gleaners, instead of the big vertical rams like the 02's and 6622's. That system always looked underpowered to me. How well did it serve? Did production on the 7722 start in 1981 or was it later.

I wish I had more photos but I quit farming in 1983, long before digital cameras and the internet. Going to have to do some digging and find some snapshots.

Anyway, thanks for all the great information on this thread.

Casey

OK Atlas....from our 'more than you probably want to know about it' dept. JD
leveling systems are electric over hydraulic....but they don't use a Mercury board to control it. I'll let a JD tech writer explain this time. This is from a 6602service manual, but the same leveling system is used on the 6622 like NIF is running:





I don't see a dollars worth of difference between Fig 2 (above) and Fig 3
(below).......which means the ace JD tech proof reader screwed up. But I threw it in anyway because of the text at the bottom.



PS........to cojhl2......Hillbilly combines indeed!! This from an outfit ( John Deere) that insisted on putting the outdated belt driven rotatory
screen ( on the radiator intake) FOR YEARS. Nothing......it seems, Burns Like
a Deere:

Confused, Atlas?? One more for ya. The combines that IH built before the 1470/1670 series used a totally different control for the leveling. The 151, 403 &453 combines used a oil dampened pendulum that hooked in directly to the hydraulic spools......no pesky electrical circuits, solenoids or reservoirs ( other than the hydraulic reservoir) Really followed the KISS principal. Simple. The pendulum can be seen here just to the operators right on the front of the grain tank. Another major difference on these machines is that a single hydraulic cylinder handled the side to side leveling. You can see it here, extending down to the main axle. The Radius Arms, like you see on NIF's 6622's or on the later 1470/1670 series from IH are not used.




The IH 51 & 160 pull types had self leveling cleaning shoes ( leveled fore & aft) Starting with the IH 151 SP machines, they did away with that, and kept the shoe level by........moving the whole machine. You could have it
either way, two way leveling.....or by adding another set of spools hooked
up to the pendulum......four way leveling:


A good look at the pendulum control;




Uphill in peas.....a pair of cylinders moves the rear axle up & down:



........in peas.......a 403:


.......and down hill, again a 403 in peas



The max level on this series ( 151, 403, 453) is only about 35%, compared
to NIF's 6622's at 45% and the 48% on the 1470/1670 series. An old pull
type like the IH 160 had an eye popping max of 65%. More to come on that............soon.

"Woody" wrote:

NIF and 98J great pic's really enjoyed this thread.
NIF intersting modification to the rear of the 6622, what does the flex tube connect to? Auxiliary Fan driven off the walker drive? Where are you directing that air?
Looks like some work ahead of you on the pea header, are you going to fab up some new header pans??

Good stuff guys, thanks again:)
Woody

Yep tube goes to a fan drive hooked in at the chopper, this pic was from the first attempt it 08 which ended up being a disaster, took it off within the first hour of harvest.

In the latest modifictation, the air comes in the back and down and then straight out the sides. This pic is what the set up looked like this past year but it would pile chaff up on the tube which brought the air in from the front and out the sides. Main idea is that the chaff stream comes out and hits the the vertical pieces on the back and falls down into the air stream. Moving into min till and no-till requires the chaff row be spread out. Not many people run chaff spreaders around here as most do all conventional tillage but the few 22s that do have chaff spreaders usually use a mechanical spreader like a turn table or a love spreader. The love style doesnt work well going downhill and the turntables I think would be too dangerous as we like to walk along and take a sample off the stream above the sieves when switching between different crops.

The header project probably isnt as big of deal as it would seem, the pans actually are in good shape they were replaced not too long before it was parked but they werent stainless so they have a bit of rust to remove. Need to redesign the header cart it is sitting on because the angle the header sits changes with a pea bar on, one of our carts wont work at all with a pea bar because of the skid plates beneath it.


Chopping away in a heavy crop of peas, pea bar doing its job perfectly

Bleedinred- nice pics, that is an interesting bankout wagon for sure and good looking combines as well. I do recognize that plane, and I have seen those grapes growing above the river also. Got any more pics? Would love to see some more.

Not a good picture shot through the window of my machine but if you can see where the uppermost canyon comes into the near one on the left, that is where arrow junction is.

Casey- I dont know alot about the 7722s but I will share what I do know. They are not extremely common here but there are a few around in the palouse, not in the numbers of the 6622s though which are probably the most abundant combine of any color running in my area right now. Neighbor had a 7722 for a few year back when they first came out but dont know of anyone nearby running one since then. JD built the 6622 "turbo" or "titan" from 1980 to 1983 in massive numbers, the farm crisis started to kick in and they couldnt sell all the 83s so they didnt make any in 84. In 1985 JD switched all their machines to "Titan 2" and made a few mods to all the series including the 6622s. In 1986 they switched from the 6622 T2 to the 7722 T2 and made two batches of them, 1986 and 1989. They are really not much bigger than a 6622 with T2 mods they just have 5 walkers instead of 4 so many people werent willing to step up and buy them when money was tight. All the 7722s run 24' headers around here. The 7722s and then the later 9632s (made from 1989 to 1999) were level lands sent to Spokane for Rahco to make the hillside mods.

The 9632 combines were the last of the old style leveling....went to 44% and are a very hot item today, they seem to get sold as soon as they hit the lot and go for almost twice the price of what a level land 9600 would be, they run either 25' or 30' headers on them.

If anybody knows different than what I said then speak up but this is what I learned when looking at newer machines.

First off awesome thread. I hope it keeps going.

2nd- With all the terraces in oklahoma i think i would actually be able to justify a hillside kit. I cant tell you how many times we got out to see how much we were riding over the rear on our L2 Gleaner or our TR98 Newholland when working in between terraces. They'd clean grain like a champ on moderately flat ground but you hit those hills and if you didnt slow down alittle you'd start riding grain right out the back. The L2 always did a better job the the TR98 though. The 98 seemed to be able to take in more than it could handle especialy the clean grain elevator. If you pushed it, it would bite back and and slip the clutch. we tried a new clutch with no prevail so we modified it and put alot stouter springs- big mistake, it'll just twist the shaft off.
We custom harvested for several years all the way from Vernon Tx. to Winner SD. It was an experience and i prefer to never do it again. Local harvest is more than enough for 1 year.

The neighbors always hired a custom crew with new JD's across from my dads house that didnt do a good job in mine and my dads eyes. We went and saw with a flash light how they were doing after they left when the dew set in early and everywhere they had cut looked as if there had been a hail storm a week earlier. In the uncut part maybe 4 or 5 grains in a 3x3 square.
I dont know about hillside machines but I've run most of the machines that were new about 5 years ago and i'd have to say the R series gleaner crap on about everything ive run (IH, JD, NH). I'd love to go about 12 hours in a challenger with tracks to see what they'll do!