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D2 going in the shop

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3 years 8 months ago #226782 by neil
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Looking good Scott. I didn't touch my governor either figuring (I hadn't run it yet) that it was likely ok and that I'd only mess with it if it was not set/working correctly. Filter tower and pump body was another story though - full of crud.

Do you still have the serial # tag to reinstall? If not, I think you can buy new blanks and stamp your number back in. I understand that the font used is a Cat special so unlikely to be found in a stamp collection. There are some fonts that come close and only a purist would notice - mind you, you're doing such a good job on this unit that maybe you do need the right font! : )

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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3 years 8 months ago #226785 by d2gary
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Well funny story on the serial number, my block isnt stamped and was cast in 1951. I'm not sure cat would have kept casting the 3 3/4in blocks after they went to the 4in d311. So is this a d311 block with a d3400 head? The injectors are stamped 3 3/4 bore only, but could they have been bored out to produce more fuel?
I do remember reading that blocks were sometimes stamped on the pan rail if the tag was missing but nothing there either.
If anyone has any thoughts on this I'd be curious to hear them
I will be looking at the fuel tower and pump, if it's in need of attention I'll take care of it.

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3 years 8 months ago #226795 by Mike Meyer
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You are doing a mighty job there Scott, I bet you can't wait to see the painting finished.

Neil, do you know what font is closest to the original Cat font?
Thanks
Mike

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3 years 8 months ago #226796 by neil
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Hi Mike, I've browsed fonts on the pc and on the interwebs and there are some that seem similar but there's always something that's glaringly wrong, once it catches the eye. For example, I was looking at a font just now that matched the #8 on my 3J4086SP but was missing the upper downstroke on the #6 (that bit on the top right). There's a website that uses ML to try to find a close match but my understanding is that the Cat fonts are not in the public domain so not directly nameable. Also, my 3J serial # font is different to that on my 5U serial # and the SP in the 3J appears a different set (bolded) from the rest of the number. Maybe Cat updated the font or different production lines had slightly different stamp sets. In any case, I'd say pulling together a set of photos of serial numbers that included all the numbers and letters from a series would be sufficient for a graphic artist to reverse engineer them.

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Neil

Pittsford, NY

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3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 8 months ago #226809 by Mike Meyer
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Interesting subject, I remember someone saying there was a set of stamps owned by a ACMOC member in the USA, it might have been Byron who said that, and I'm wondering if it was "The Brothers" who owned the stamps?

At the time of the discussion I was buying new brass plates for my Cat Thirty's and was hoping to get them stamped with their correct serial numbers, in the end I couldn't find a serial number on any of the machines, all 5 of them, though I did find a date stamp on the block of one, talk about a hair pulling exercise spending hours crawling all over a tractor to no avail.

One of my sons owns a engraving business and I showed him a plate, he said a computer run engraving machine could duplicate the font, he doesn't have one of those machines, but it is worth exploring if necessary.

I wonder, did the Cat Dealers have stamps, maybe Eddie B can clarify that.
All the best
Mike
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3 years 8 months ago - 3 years 8 months ago #226817 by d2gary
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Well it was a long day, you would think spraying paint won't take that long but everything else does. After cleaning everything and wiping it down with degreaser and taping everything off the paint spraying isn't to bad.Crawling around on the concrete floor isn't much fun but the job got done. Extremely happy with the results..  
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3 years 8 months ago #226822 by Cat Yellow1
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Looks good. Thanks for sharing.

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3 years 8 months ago #226823 by gauntjoh
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That looks really good Gary. What is the unit mounted on the top left of the transmission case?

John Gaunt, ACMOC Director, UK

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3 years 8 months ago #226829 by neil
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Huge fan of attachments and that pump on the winch is extra cool. What are you planning to run with it?

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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3 years 8 months ago #226853 by d2gary
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Neil is correct that is the hydaulic pump but it will only run blade hydraulics. The pump is only active when the main clutch is engaged, makes for some interesting moments when guys who aren't familiar with old iron jump on to try and run it. At one time I thought of installing a front mount Cat pump for live hydraulics and using the winch mounted pump for other attachments. I don't have any other attachments and decided to just leave it the way it was. I even bought a tractor with a Cat pump but another member is going to get it.
I layed out the next batch of parts that go on for paint. I'm thinking things should move along pretty quickly if the honey do list doesn't start squeaking to loud.

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