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(pictures) farming with steel tracks

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13 years 11 months ago #53108 by OldTracks
Interesting and impressive pictures and a big thanks to those who posted them.
This is one great thread.

It's very impressive to see the downhill crab angle of the implement behind the tractor on a steep hillside.

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13 years 11 months ago #53110 by Atlas
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Hi guys i see 98J has some fence posts between field boundaries,are these fences for livestock in the rotation or from years gone by ? NIF are the seeder Chevy truck augers run by hydraulic motors or electric . thanks guys for the scenery plus iron and rubber pictures cheers Atlas

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13 years 11 months ago #53111 by Old 3T lover

AHHHH a comedian in the bunch, I am not sure if that's allowed:lol: I can envision little volcanoes being made in the upholstery of that JD when cutting ''Politician'' wheat, even with a 5 point harness and a skyhook, you just never know how to hook those things properly:lol: and we won't even talk about shatter and feeding problems, maybe if you went up instead of down:loco: of course then you couldn't keep it on the screens:lol:

Speaking of pulling chisels, I thought that I would once again bore and offend everyone on this site with my non-Cat machine dubbed "THE POWERNOSHIFT" by cuz Casey. A repowed HD-11s before and after paint, I know it means very little to a ''Cat'' guy and it is not a 6C by any means but I am kind of proud of it and it pulls like it is pissed off. For those who have not seen it. Tad






















That's a nice looking orange HD-11....and looks like a heck of a nice repower job there. With what looks like a 6V71, I bet it does pull like it's pissed off. That's probably a 100 horses more than it came with new.

....and with those twin stacks and little mufflers, I bet everyone within 10 miles knows when you're pulling something....

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13 years 11 months ago #53118 by North Idaho Farmer
98j- thanks again for posting up all those pictures, I really like the look of that newer JD with the diamond tires on it. Those quad tracks aren't bad looking rigs either.

Bruce- wow I didnt realize you were up that high, I know a guy that farms some and mainly raises cattle just south of Anatone at 3800ft and that sure seems like a hard place to make a living. Dont know about this year but last year wheat yields averaged 17bu for them. The soils are so thin there that they say the wheat can burn up three weeks after the snow goes off sometimes.

Tad- go right ahead and post more of those pics if you get more even if they are not Cat, back when we shared field work with a neighbor there was an AC HD 6 that set foot on our ground from time to time. Though caterpillars definitely outnumbered the other crawlers here there is one neighbor still using an HD11 for farming, he pulls a 9 bottom JD plow similar to the one bleedinred posted pics of in October. I also know of an operation on a ridge about 15 miles from here that uses three AC crawlers for farming still.

Some more crawler videos I found on youtube.

An HD9 at work farming.



Cat D6B pulling HZ drills



Atlas- the augers on the trucks are made by barber engineering- Spokane, WA and the motors are hydraulically driven. A valve is used to switch between the truck hoist and the auger.

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13 years 11 months ago #53120 by Bruce P
Tad, Nothing wrong with that tractor. Pics of those are welcome anytime. A customer just brought me a 3-71 out of a HD-5. Looks like something went thru the gear train, and from what I've seen thru the inspection covers it 's pretty ugly. I'll post some pics when I get it apart.

NIF Yes 200' over here can make a world of difference. Our old pasture was about 3800 and it was pretty thin, they tried to farm it in the 40's but soon gave up. It does however make dandy hay ground, if it rains. Last year was a bad one for every body, turned off in the upper 90's around Memorial Day with a 15 mph wind. It happens quite often, so much so that the locals have a name for it, "The Memorial Day Cookout", no joke.

Bruce

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13 years 11 months ago #53121 by Old 3T lover

Tad, Nothing wrong with that tractor. Pics of those are welcome anytime. A customer just brought me a 3-71 out of a HD-5. Looks like something went thru the gear train, and from what I've seen thru the inspection covers it 's pretty ugly. I'll post some pics when I get it apart.

NIF Yes 200' over here can make a world of difference. Our old pasture was about 3800 and it was pretty thin, they tried to farm it in the 40's but soon gave up. It does however make dandy hay ground, if it rains. Last year was a bad one for every body, turned off in the upper 90's around Memorial Day with a 15 mph wind. It happens quite often, so much so that the locals have a name for it, "The Memorial Day Cookout", no joke.

Bruce


If it's a 371 out of an AC dozer then it came out of an HD-7. The HD-5's had 271's and the HD-9/10's had 471's.

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13 years 11 months ago #53123 by Tad Wicks
If you guys are game for more pixs:lol: here is the sequence of the repower, Old 3T Lover, you are right on the money, it is a 6V-71 I took off a pumping unit, it originally came from a cab-over truck so I had to change the governor and the front timing plate/motor mount/fan mount because of the fan on the crankshaft. The flywheel had to be machined to accept the SAE clutch that AC uses, the #2 bell housing bolted right up with a bit longer driveline, fabricated rear engine mounts, changed the radiator to two outlets and I fabricated the twin aircleaners and rebuilt the engine. I chose AC because of the flexibility of the engine/trans compartment plus the neighbor had this one sitting for about twenty years after a complete brand new undercarriage change, new engine, new steering clutches and brakes. He fell into a spring, a deep spring, they pulled it out, started it up and drove it off about 200 yards and the engine seized, they never drained the water, so they had a tractor with less than 100 hrs on everything new with a dead engine, so I bought it years later just figuring I would find an engine someday and that day happened. The 6V-71 is rated at about 200 HP@2100, I run this at 1500-1750 with 65-S injectors probably producing about 150-180 HP way to much for the chassis ( a 4-71NT would have been plenty), but I load it light and never shift hence the name POWERNOSHIFT it is remarkably easy on fuel and one day 55 injectors will help that more. I love the straight pipes but the State of Ca. says I have to run spark arrestors (The little mufflers) and you are right once again it is incredibly loud, so loud I can hear it through my mouth, maybe some chrome stacks in the future for winter time. I won’t run my tracks over 4 mph, it is just not necessary here, so it should last a lifetime or until the State of CA. won’t let me run it anymore because of smog laws:mad2:.
The 3-71 was the engine that came in an HD-7, but it is a common repower for the HD-5. The problem is the 3-71 from an HD-7 is the low block engine, considered obsolete and why this is I don’t know, almost everything is interchangeable between the tall block and the low block except the head gasket, a 4 valve head will bolt right up to a low block along with everything else. I have a HD-7 that I really like, a 1942 tractor that pulls and runs great.Here is a video of it seeding with 14 feet of IH 150 shovel presswheel drills. Thanks for the interest;Tad






















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13 years 11 months ago #53124 by Old 3T lover


The 6V-71 is rated at about 200 HP@2100, I run this at 1500-1750 with 65-S injectors probably producing about 150-180 HP way to much for the chassis ]

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There's the only thing I see that bothers me a bit....I believe I'd drop down a gear and run the engine around 1,900 to 2,000 RPM's. It'll burn a little more fuel but it will probably last a lot longer. The 71 series DETROIT's didn't like to be lugged.

You did an excellent job on that repower....very professional looking work.

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13 years 11 months ago #53126 by Bruce P
Old 3T lover, you are right about what engine the AC's came with. But up in the Palouse where it's steep the popular HD-5 hop-up was to put a 3-71 in when the 2-71 gave up. I'm told that this "made a tractor out of them". Any way thats what I'm dealing with, a hot rod HD-5. I should have mentioned that in my earlier post. I'll post a pic when I find one.

Bruce

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13 years 11 months ago #53128 by Bruce P
Tad thats a great set of pics. I really like your air cleaner. Regarding your spark arresters, did someone from the state come around and tell you to put those on? Or did you put them on just to be a good citizen? Just curious.

Bruce

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