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(pictures) farming with steel tracks

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6 years 8 months ago #180286 by Ray54
No science behind my thoughts here just observations. I think the ware has to do with dirt filtering down through all the components of the undercarriage. Faster speeds carry more dirt higher before it falls off or out. By luck most all the land I have farmed are not abrasive has been very kind in the track ware department. Not so friendly in other ways as it is infested with limestone that causes a lot of damage to tillage tools.

But kicking this back and forth with others that farmed much more abrasive soils time is limited. So speed in getting over acres matter so compromises must be made but track ware was way down the list of considerations.

Part of the considerations was keeping the tillage equipment in one piece.But have had some of the same moments others have spoke of. Some of the time experience helps but sure would be nice if neck still was as good to help looking behind as in my youth.


In my early farming days I had a field ready to plant and the forecast was days of rain. Warmed the AC HD5 up at normal speeds,but then put it in high and went as fast as possible. After that day seeded in high gear where I could. Who knows what was all said about me by some people in the area.


I am sure larger machines have much more shock from impacts but don' see it being a big part of the ware in undercarriage on the smaller machines.

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6 years 8 months ago #180291 by neil
Here's an article from Caterpillar on good stewardship of undercarriage - caterpillar.scene7.com/is/content/Caterpillar/C10290736
It makes this point:
"Operating the machine at a non- productive high speed may cause link, tractor roller, and idler tread wear. Wear increases proportionally to speed"
So, I read that as, taking other factors such as safety and environmental into account, operate at a speed that enables a quality job at a high productivity where a marginal increase in speed produces a diminishing overall return (return isn't just profit on this job but the ability to fit more jobs in, not annoy other groups, balance productivity over the entire team, sync in conveniently with other things like maintenance, job sites moves, etc.)
In other words, figure out what trade-off works for you, and it's likely different from job to job, parts of the country, labor available, etc.

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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5 years 9 months ago #197368 by Gary Morisoli
Replied by Gary Morisoli on topic D2 Disking
While waiting for the ground to dry up. all I can do is look at last years disking with a 4U and Killefer Disk.


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5 years 9 months ago #197376 by juiceman

While waiting for the ground to dry up. all I can do is look at last years disking with a 4U and Killefer Disk.



Be glad you have a top seat tractor, I’ve ran tailseat tractors that beat me to death even on smooth ground.Nice video. Pretty soon September will be here and we will be up to our eyeballs in wine grapes from the El Dorado region.

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4 years 9 months ago #212295 by EAS
Replied by EAS on topic Working Fleet

A few of our cats. All still earn their keep. D6D, D6B, D4C.
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4 years 9 months ago #212302 by Bruce P
Good looking lineup. Thanks for the pictures.

BP.

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4 years 9 months ago #212304 by neil
Wow, big difference in dimensions between the D and the B judging by that second picture

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Neil

Pittsford, NY

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4 years 9 months ago #212312 by Tad Wicks
Speaking of wine grapes, I saw this picture awhile back. These guys decided to go over the row instead of between it, I bet it is great for minimizing compaction and concentrated plantings the only thing is grape roots are not very aggressive and usually don't spread to the sides of the vine row especially when drippers are used, I doubt very much that very many sprinkle irrigate any more due to issues caused by overhead irrigation, but none the less I thought it to be quite resourceful.
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4 years 9 months ago #212334 by caterpillar13
tad
do you have any more pictures of the over the cat

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4 years 9 months ago #212336 by Tad Wicks
Cat 13, No, I am sorry I don't, I don't even know where this is but I would suspect from the type of trellising or lack there of, not in the US. I would like to see how the track drive was elevated, probably has a solid frame, but it looks as thought the whole track frame was lowered and the sprocket drive still down low, in other words, they didn't triangulate the track with the sprocket up high. The reason, I would assume is in narrow plantings, the triangulated tracks would damage the vines once they are up on trellis, this way the track will remain below the majority of cane. Thanks Tad

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