"Member2103" wrote:

Just curious. Did Caterpillar ever equip their ag tractors with factory PTO's or power take offs like wheeled farm tractors??

From my 7U operators manual:

"98j" wrote:

Yo Art!! No clue about the make of the small combine in the brochure. Did a little digging around on Google & came up with a little tidbit ......Deere's answer
to the A.C. Model 60, was the JD NO. 6, built in 1936 that had a similar cross
wise threshing set up.....spike tooth cylinder, on rubber, PTO or engine power.
Wonder if it could be one of those???

I would bet that it is, given the cross marketing agreement that John Deere and Caterpillar had at the time. You will notice that in the Caterpillar tractor brochures up until the early 1950's, that the ag equipment in the pictures was John Deere/Killifer. I did not know that JD made a small combine like that, so, as the critics would say, JD 'stole' that idea, right down to the model number (almost).

The one time I drove thru your part of the world, I noticed that there were still a lot of Caterpillar crawlers at John Deere shops being serviced.

In the black and white picture on the previous page, are you sure that is a Caterpillar? Look closely at the 'tented' hood, and the lettering on the radiator, at least to me, looks to be Cletrac.

Also, while that is a sack type combine, the piles showing in the picture do not appear to be sacks of grain, but, instead, they appear to be piles of straw. I am thinking this because all the pictures I have seen, and they are very few, the sacks are white, and there does not appear to be any windrows of straw behind the combine in any of the swaths showing in the picture. The combine does have the sack chute on the side, but I cannot see where the person who fills and ties the sacks is setting.

Again, thank all of you for the beautiful pictures. The scenery does help, but having the creativity to take a picture that is fascinating and well composed makes it much more interesting than a mere 'picture'.

I do not know if you are aware of the massive thread on the Red Power Magazine "Coffee Shop" board, about the IH Tractors on A Montana Farm, which has over 300,000 views, and has expanded into many topics, from Steam Plowing Engines, to grain elevators, to Model T Fords, but it is a very nostalgic and interesting thread.

North Idaho Farmer: Thanks for the elevator modification pictures and the other combine shots. I like the looks of the elevator on the 80 machine, kind of reminds me of the old 95H setup. On our two machines we had all of the auger edges hardfaced. Helped out with the wear considerably. Hillside operation does tend to stress the frame components. looks like your mod's are holding things together. On the new hillside conversions I like the Accu Level or the old Racho conversion the best, seems to be a lot stronger than the Hillco. No doubt its more expensive. I have never looked at a Hillco in the flesh, must be a reasonably good unit, lots of them around, seems to be the conversion of choice for the Case IH machines. The days of the old water can sensing, or the mercury board level sensing are gone, there doing all that now with a computer sensing the level. They tell me it works like a charm, faster, smoother, and you can trim the header beyond max level. In certain spots I can see where that would be very helpful.
Great Pictures, nice country you have up their.

Ray54;51480 wrote:

Not to side track this thread but Tanker I have to ask about your steering clutch controls are these of your design or are they after market?
Got the hyd stearing off my spare 2U- don't know where came from or what brand-- had the pull handles like on a factory 46A- they pulled to hard so I modified with the upright levers which suited my app [ie seat ht] much better- and can be pulled w/ ease- the master clutch is mounted on ball bearing set to cab floor w/ drag link underneath- = reverse action like our old A JD.. brakes pedals each go to master cyls & lines to slave cylinders made from landing gear cyls from p38 lightning-converted to brake fluid instead of hyd oil- tranny shifter & johnson bar/ shuttle lever come up through floor.

Hey Art, the sack sewer is taking the picture. The piles you see are from the straw dump. They were quite common as many growers tried to preserve as much as they could for cow feed. Further, in a hillside harvest operation, the sewn sacks were usually dumped at the top of a ridge or the bottom of a draw for better truck access. There was nothing a sack buck hated more than having to drag a sack to the truck then lift it up on the bed, even if it was a down hill drag

Casey

"Art wrote:

In the black and white picture on the previous page, are you sure that is a Caterpillar? Look closely at the 'tented' hood, and the lettering on the radiator, at least to me, looks to be Cletrac.

Also, while that is a sack type combine, the piles showing in the picture do not appear to be sacks of grain, but, instead, they appear to be piles of straw. I am thinking this because all the pictures I have seen, and they are very few, the sacks are white, and there does not appear to be any windrows of straw behind the combine in any of the swaths showing in the picture. The combine does have the sack chute on the side, but I cannot see where the person who fills and ties the sacks is setting.

Again, thank all of you for the beautiful pictures. The scenery does help, but having the creativity to take a picture that is fascinating and well composed makes it much more interesting than a mere 'picture'.



I do not know if you are aware of the massive thread on the Red Power Magazine "Coffee Shop" board, about the IH Tractors on A Montana Farm, which has over 300,000 views, and has expanded into many topics, from Steam Plowing Engines, to grain elevators, to Model T Fords, but it is a very nostalgic and interesting thread.

Hey Art! Yup, I do believe you are right about the tractor. Nice pick up. I tried
to blow that frame up to confirm the name, but ran out of pixels before I could read anything. You are right, the tented hood is a dead give away. I
think Casey has it figured out. The piles are dumped material ( pretty sure this is in peas) and I don't see a sack on the ground anywhere. Sacking for
sure though; no bulk tank. The sack sewer worked on the platform right behind the header puncher. Notice the clean grain elevator...split into two down spouts. The sack sewer would flip a lever to divert the grain (peas)
into one sack while he was sewing the last filled. Then he would switch the
lever, start filling a new sack, pull the newly filled one off & sew that. Could
keep a man busy in some good grain. Notice on the picture of the
JD 33-H that we used to run that the sacking platform is still on the machine.
It was left on as a place to store extra parts, tools and a handy spot to carry
visitors.

Hard to go wrong taking pictures out here Art. Another Green One to keep NIF
under control............



A little Red Paint mixed in here.......... I wonder what some of the old sack
sewers would say if they could come back and see a grain cart.




.......and a full blown Red Paint assault, not a very sporting thing to do to the
threads originator.

To get things back on track, as it were, a fun shot of a D6D that I
grabbed off the net........down in California I think. Looks to have an extended
track frame......and a fun lash up behind him. I loved to pull doubles.....never
did see triples in the flesh. Might be a thrill on a down hill turn....wadda think NFI ??????



The IH " Broken Back" made things a lot easier. The best trash eating plow that I ever pulled......I have put down some 100+ bu stubble and never plugged.
My D5 .......hard to get action shots of it by myself.



A view from inside....Pyro on one side of the Tach, Manifold Pressure on the
other. Just about to cut this field in two:

"Woody" wrote:

North Idaho Farmer: Thanks for the elevator modification pictures and the other combine shots. I like the looks of the elevator on the 80 machine, kind of reminds me of the old 95H setup. On our two machines we had all of the auger edges hardfaced. Helped out with the wear considerably. Hillside operation does tend to stress the frame components. looks like your mod's are holding things together. On the new hillside conversions I like the Accu Level or the old Racho conversion the best, seems to be a lot stronger than the Hillco. No doubt its more expensive. I have never looked at a Hillco in the flesh, must be a reasonably good unit, lots of them around, seems to be the conversion of choice for the Case IH machines. The days of the old water can sensing, or the mercury board level sensing are gone, there doing all that now with a computer sensing the level. They tell me it works like a charm, faster, smoother, and you can trim the header beyond max level. In certain spots I can see where that would be very helpful.
Great Pictures, nice country you have up their.

Trust me Woody......the Hillco unit will stand up to a lot.





This is on a Case IH ( sorry NIF) 8010.....that Bad Boy Weighs a bunch. Five years
in at SRS Ranches, & it seems to be holding up.