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Cat 12 grader not starting?

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9 years 5 months ago #120768 by THE MACHINIST
My jet looks just like the one you are holding in the last image I loaded a couple pics in a previous post.

I cleaned it thoroughly

I really wonder what I'm missing here like I said I drilled out all the lead plugs and cleaned them carefully too. Then put in new lead plugs.




Thanks again

Jamie

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9 years 5 months ago #120769 by Old Magnet
You got it. I should have dug up the correct parts diagram to begin with. Sorry for the confusion but they are all part of the TU-4C family.

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9 years 5 months ago #120770 by THE MACHINIST
I just appreciate your knowledge and diligence.

Are there any small passages in the Venturi body that like to plug up?

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9 years 5 months ago #120776 by Old Magnet
Usually it's bowl passages that are the problem. Did you check the nozzle discharge tube and idle jet?

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9 years 5 months ago #120784 by THE MACHINIST
Idle jet is good

Not sure which one is the discharge tube. In the earlier drawing you posted on the Venturi body it mentions a discharge plug in the lower portion of body. If so how do I pull the plug because I'm thinking its brass. And if I drill it to pull it I don't have a replacement.

Thanks

Jamie

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9 years 5 months ago #120795 by Old Magnet
There is really no reason to pull the idle discharge plug unless the passage is plugged up. It is easy enough to check with compressed air flow or a shot of carb cleaner. It does contain an orifice opening that needs to be orientated correctly so that the opening is below the closed throttle plate. I'd sure check on replacement availability before messing with it.

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9 years 5 months ago #120821 by THE MACHINIST
Got It running
After leaving long runner to breather off I could see it backfiring
Someone had put new plugs in it before I bought it. They must have got the leads wrong.
I Switched plug leads shazaam instantly fired up

Where is the oil drain for the pony motor?

Thank you all for your time and effort!

I need to buy a manual I see them on eBay but would rather get it from someone here.

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9 years 5 months ago #120825 by ccjersey
WHOO HOO!! Good job! At least you are starting out with a clean carb.

On the pony oil drain, i don't have one that old, but look on the back face of the left side of the grader clutch housing. Later models have a cast spigot that bolts to the clutch housing near the top, but may just have a plug threaded into the casting there if there is no spigot. The clutch housing seals the oil sump of the pony motor and provides the oil drain as well as the lower coolant connection between the pony and diesel engines.

D2-5J's, D6-9U's, D318 and D333 power units, 12E-99E grader, 922B & 944A wheel loaders, D330C generator set, DW20 water tanker and a bunch of Jersey cows to take care of in my spare time:D

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9 years 5 months ago #120828 by THE MACHINIST
Thanks. Fourth times the charm.

When you say clutch housing you mean the clutch for the pony motor not the clutch for the transmission?

Also How much oil does the pony hold? What is the correct weight?

I have read that some people use ATF in the clutch housing is that the best choice. I see what appears to be 3 plugs on the clutch housing one on the rear one on side and one on top. I assume the rear is drain. Side is fill level and top is to fill it.

Thanks again

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9 years 5 months ago #120829 by Old Magnet
The pony crankcase drain is that spigot that comes off the main engine clutch housing just below the mounting flange joint, RH side. Crankcase hold 1-1/2 quarts of 30 wt engine oil.

Pony clutch oil level is the plug on the front of the housing. Holds about 5/8 of a quart. Normally uses engine oil but ATF is an option if the clutch tends to drag.

Seems your making good progress.

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