So........Bruce......tell me. Does this look at all familiar?????????



Is this you burning the stick??? Or perhaps the one strolling through the door??
Or where you the one over in the corner admiring the, shall we say 'art work',
on the wall??? Some serious iron in this frame,BTW.



Looks like they turned out pretty well.......

Bruce I like your heavy duty no till planter. What kind of spacing are those openers placed apart? Most of the people that have tried the regular no till planters from the big tractor manufactures here in the heavy clay have torn them up in no time. That looks like it would be the thing to use.

One custom operator around here has put a similar Gandy air planter boxes on top of a Wilcox eliminator which is a 60' long one pass unit that discs, chisels, chops residue and rolls clods in one pass as a way to plant oats after silage corn. The only problem is that thing takes 450 hp to pull a 18' wide unit.

Well 98J I was more than a little surprised to see your pics of the new shop.
I don't think I was back there then, Junior was was running the hot glue gun on the frame for the Cross Slot drill and Derrick was walking thru the door, and we've all done our share of admiring the wall. Actually it's pretty hilarious to watch some surley, serious old salt stand there and soak it all in:D .
I worked there full time when I wasn't farming from '01 thru '06 then I was able to build a pretty good shop at home and work out of there most of the time. However when things slow down at home there's always something to build or overhaul down there. This winter I've been down there since January first.
Time to start hauling wheat so I'll take alittle break but they are still slammed.
Yes the frame on that Cross Slot was huge (8x8X1/2) I guess they want 100lbs per opener so it will go into the ground. So 1000lbs X 31 openers=31000lbs dry. They left the lower tubes uncapped so they can slide 7" round stock in side to get more weight:eek: I guess the Cross Slots pull really hard, but they do well in sod and in the spring. The Agpro opener pulls pretty easy, a
D5B will pull a 30' with out much fuss.

Bruce

Hello CR,
Our spacing, generaly, is 10 or 12 inches. The first Agpros back in the early 90's were 7 (a real nightmare to work on) Some customers will go as much as 15 with a special boot on the bottom to spread the seed wider.
The cross Slot was also on 10 inch spacing.

We have had some experiance with Gandy boxes. Generaly either replaceng them with one of our boxes or retrofitting one of our metering bottoms onto a Gandy box.

Bruce

Bruce P - I have seen those drills before with different openers on them, but I wasnt aware of Agpro actually having their own opener. Do you have any idea how it handles in high residue (after 90+bu wheat) at a 10 in spacing? A few years down the road looking for a high disturbance opener that works well in heavy residue and need narrower spacing for legumes. Guys down on the prairie running the anderson openers on air drills talk of having to heavy harrow 3 times to get the drill through it when the wheat does 90 or more.

Thanks Bruce. All of our drills for grain are 6" spacing. The only time I have seen something that wide of spacing was back when Garbanzos beans were a big crop.

Here is the Wilcox eliminator that people have put the gandy onto.

What are the problems with the gandy? I have only seen that style of planter over here recently.

Hello NIF and CR, Yes we have had our own opener for quite awhile the basic design hasen't shanged much since the late 80's but there have been constant improvements in the reliability. Since we run three drills out as rentals it's pretty easy to figure out what breaks. The rule of thumb is if you can build it tough enough for rental, it will last a loooong time when a farmer buys one of his own ( because now he has to work on it:rolleyes: ). As far as high residue goes the concensus is as long as it is standing it will handle very high residue , 100 plus, however if the cows are in the feild and they knock all that tall stubble down you are going to have a problem. It happened to my neighbor and it wasn't pretty. Another thing that works good is to mow the stubble by about half it's total height, you get a nice mulch to seal up the cracks and leave enough standing to get thru it good. Keep in mind this is all just my observations.

CR that's quite a set up looks like just the thing for all in one setup. There's really nothing wrong with the Gandy box for small seeds and lower rates. Where guys around here get into trouble is when the seeding rates get up to 90 or 100 lbs / acre or when they are seeding Garbs then apparently they don't have the air capacity to push the seed out to the openers, at least that's what the engineer tells me. Our metering bottoms and venturi's are designed to handle both large seeds and high rates. We also retro fit the newer John Deere air carts with our bottoms and a bigger fan because they have the same problem, or the customer orders his JD drill without the airbox and we build one for him from scratch. And some times we build air boxes entirely from stainless steel for fertilizer spreaders, nothing will wreck a shirt faster than welding stainless.
Agpro has a web site there's a pic somewhere on there of me riding an Anhydrus bottle bareback. We do tend to have fun down there sometimes!

Bruce

This thread gets better everyday, the pictures of the D4 with the side hill pull type combine were great.

There is a chance for me to be in the Spokane WA area the middle of August, I haven't looked how far that is from where you are at. Was wondering if there is any wheat harvest going on then and if there is a chance to come by for a visit.
Thanks, Jim

The Gandys are for wheat / oats, for a forage mix the seeding rate is like 100 -120 lbs / acre (IIRC?) so it looks there would be problems there thanks. Garbanzos beans havn't been grown here since the late 80's when they bred in shorter growing days.

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Like ronm said.Been showing these to my dad who is 86.He makes hints to see more if I forget.Makes for great discussions and reminencing.

Hey there Gary! My Dad drove wheat truck for me for 25 years....boy did we have some great times.....couldn't ask for better help, and the price was right. Here is a little something for your dad.....a little deep background on harvesting. Hope it leads to some more good discussions between you & your Dad.

Before the advent of combines to get the crop harvested in this area, stationary threshing was used. The grain was cut using a header.....here is a shot of one restored to working condition, taken at the Dufur Threshing Bee:



A look down the drapers......ground power ran the drapers, reel and knife.



A detail of the 'bull wheel' and the various drives leading to the working
parts





Got the lash up for the horses figured out???



Getting the team hitched up to the header. Easy does it.