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3 weeks 1 day ago #260053 by Earthtones
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I might be buying what I think is a 12E grader. Cheap enough, but I'll only pick it up if I can get it to run. I want to get it going almost as much to use it as to keep it from being shredded.
It's got a pony motor with an electric starter. I've read threads here indicating I can convert to full electric start or struggle through getting the pony motor to start. Based on the apparent benefits of the pony motor, I'll try this first(first we'll try to pop start it. I'm  enclosing pictures of the grenaded starter. Can someone tell me what I have and what I can get to replace it? Is there a bendix starter that can be used?
I appreciate any help, thanks in advance. 
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260054 by neil
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Craig (seiscat) will know because that looks like the same engine that's in a D6B. That engine, D333 I believe, was more commonly delivered with direct electric start, so that would be a pretty easy option for you. You'd need a set of batteries, the associated wiring, switches, and solenoids, but otherwise you'd be good to go. That said, if you do decide to go direct electric, offer the pony for sale (or even free) on here because they're not common and that one could be a good parts donor or even to repair for someone that wants to go "old school" - I know I would just for bragging rights : )

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260055 by Earthtones
Replied by Earthtones on topic 12E starter
Thank you. I am hoping to get a starter on the pony motor first, with any luck.
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260056 by seiscat
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I'm in a rush this morning and don't have time to cross-check this. IF your 12E uses the same starting engine the starter is 9H3675. There are several 9H3675 available on Machinery Trader Parts. 
IF The starting engine is the D6B type "Buzz-Bomb" care should be taken to follow correct procedures in it's use.
I'll have more time this afternoon.
Craig
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260058 by Earthtones
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Thank you so much, look forward to hearing more.
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260059 by Earthtones
Replied by Earthtones on topic 12E starter
I just looked an image up of your part number for the starter, that's it. Next question, is there an upgrade? It does say it's a 12v on the tag pictured.
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260060 by juiceman
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Yes, you have an infamous "buzz bomb" starting engine there. Not too common. Never seen one in action, but heard of the high revs it takes to spin and prone to failure. You would have a unique set up there if it was made operational. Good luck on your new catch. JM
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260063 by Old Magnet
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260064 by Earthtones
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I wonder if this means I should abandon any work on the pony and go to direct...
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3 weeks 1 day ago #260065 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic 12E starter
I'd recommend Direct Electric Start, those "buzz bomb" pony motors are a disaster.
Be aware that the Direct Starter for the D333 uses a LH helix drive gear.
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