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1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
2 months 1 week ago #257790
by K100
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
Replied by K100 on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
I seen no evidence on the diesel of water entry anywhere, including the oil. Do you know the part numbers for the pony engine parts? Getting my local cat dealer to look this stuff up is murder.
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
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2 months 1 week ago #257794
by neil
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
This will get you started
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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2 months 1 week ago #257795
by K100
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
Replied by K100 on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
So I made a tool to fit in the crank in the front to try to break the diesel loose and didn't have any luck. I did turn the big nut but the crank nor the engine would turn over. I took the oil pump access cover off to check and see if any chunks were in the oil pan and it looked great. Is there anything else that I should check that would not let the motor turn. I did have the compression release pulled out but it doesn't really matter. I should be able to turn the engine a little no matter what. It will not budge.
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
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2 months 1 week ago #257796
by neil
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
Replied by neil on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
Are the gears etc. that the engine connects to loose (enough) to permit backlash between them and the engine? Just trying to establish that there is enough slack so that if the crank were loose, it is permitted to move just a little. It sounds like it's solid. Can you get a bar into the electric start opening to pry on the ring gear? That's about the maximum leverage you'll get so if that doesn't budge it, you'll probably need to pull the cylinder head after draining the coolant. Then you can pound on the pistons that are at halfway down with a hardwood block and large hammer. Just put some washers and blocks on the cylinder head studs and screw them down to hold the cylinder liners down if you manage to turn the engine over
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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2 months 1 week ago #257797
by D8Dude
Replied by D8Dude on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
It does seem a little odd that there's no evidence of water having entered the engine and for it to be stuck so tight. I would've expected to at least find moisture inside the valve cover if there was water in the cylinders, if it had seeped past the pistons water should've been found in the oil. I know nothing about these old cranes, are you absolutely certain that it's not the drive line or some auxiliary drive that's holding it locked?
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2 months 1 week ago #257798
by Deas Plant.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Replied by Deas Plant. on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
Hi, K100.
I have had NOTHING to do with B-E cranes but all the other track mounted mobile cranes that I operated hadda master clutch that needed to be engaged in order to operate the crane. If yours does have a master clutch - usually in the cab alongside the operator's inboard knee - make sure that it is disengaged or you'll be trying to turn all the drive train for the crane's functions.
Just my 0.02.
I have had NOTHING to do with B-E cranes but all the other track mounted mobile cranes that I operated hadda master clutch that needed to be engaged in order to operate the crane. If yours does have a master clutch - usually in the cab alongside the operator's inboard knee - make sure that it is disengaged or you'll be trying to turn all the drive train for the crane's functions.
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
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2 months 1 week ago #257799
by D4Jim
ACMOC Member 27 years
D47U 1950 #10164
Cat 112 1949 #3U1457
Cat 40 Scraper #1W-5494
Replied by D4Jim on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
I would bet the exhaust let water get into the head and cylinders like Seyser suggested. I had that happen on my grader (same 315 engine) and it had not set very long but somehow rain and wind blew water into it. I freed mine up by dumping some Kroil into the exhaust manifold and letting it soak for a week.
Engine was locked tighter than a drum but the Kroil loosened it up and it turned over OK and is still running.
With the engine locked, it is in the same position for an open valve that let in water to let in the Kroil get into the cylinder to free it.
Just another idea, Good luck.
Engine was locked tighter than a drum but the Kroil loosened it up and it turned over OK and is still running.
With the engine locked, it is in the same position for an open valve that let in water to let in the Kroil get into the cylinder to free it.
Just another idea, Good luck.
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2 months 1 week ago #257802
by trainzkid88
Replied by trainzkid88 on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
like others have suggested check there is no pto clutch etc to release first. my favourite method of loosening a engine is remove the head and fill the cylinders with diesel let it soak and each day top up the diesel and give each piston a love tap with a block of wood and a club hammer.
time works wonders.
time works wonders.
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2 months 6 days ago #257840
by K100
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
Replied by K100 on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
OK good news. I took the exhaust manifold and the breather assembly off yesterday and poured a quart of trans fluid down the intake manifold and exhaust ports. I went out and tried it today, a couple of small turns and it broke loose? can someone supply a part number for the oil pump inspection cover and also the oil filter and how much oil capacity please?
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
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2 months 6 days ago #257841
by K100
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
Replied by K100 on topic 1955 Bucyrus Erie help needed
Ok the Filter part number is a WIX 51161 or Napa 1161. Can someone tell me how to get the lower canister off (red arrow). I see a large nut down inside but it would take somewhat of a special socket to loosen it up. Would anyone have the part number for the oil pump access cover gasket, valve cover gasket and the oil capacity of this little dude?
1986 Kenworth K100E Aerodyne 3406B Cat 500 HP 13 Speed
1955 Bucyrus Erie 15B D315 Cat
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