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OT - Trailer Rim Source

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8 years 9 months ago #142140 by sdmuleman
I've got a 70's Zieman 14k trailer running 7.50-15 tires on a 2 piece rim w/ 6 lug bolt pattern. I'd like to find another rim for a spare but have no clue where to even start. I believe to rim is a 6x15. Seems like all the 15" rims I've found are 1 piece drop center for radials which would work (assuming the bolt pattern is the standard 6 lug which I think it is) except they seem to only go up to about a 2500 lb tire vs 3250 for the 7.50-15s. Might work in an emergency, but I'd really like to find another proper rim.

Off topic, I know, but I figure if anyone will know where to find 40 year old rims this is it.

Thanks,
~John

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8 years 9 months ago #142143 by mrsmackpaul
Replied by mrsmackpaul on topic OT - Trailer Rim Source
I think you will have to make that rim

need to get a old 15 inch rim off a spider hub off a low loader or if your in the US a 15 inch Dayton rim off a low boy ???? think that maybe how the yanks say it and then get a piece of flat plate cut the circle out with the gas axe drill the holes and weld it into the rim I dont think you will be able be to buy that style rim off the shelf but should be able to make it for under a 100 bucks

Paul

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8 years 9 months ago #142160 by Garlic Pete
Replied by Garlic Pete on topic Rim.
We have a 12,000 pound bumper pull trailer which, I think, has that same bolt pattern. We're running drop center radials. I can't remember the size right now, but I think they are the same 15". We just bought a rim, as ours was missing a spare, too. I'll get some pictures and find out where we got the rim for you. It was somewhere around Bakersfield here, I think maybe Clerou Tire.

This trailer surprised me because the tires that came on it, and those we've replaced, are like miniature lowbed tires. They are rated for 100 psi and something like 5,000 pounds. They've been really good to us, the tires are surprisingly inexpensive and we've never had a failure, except the time I tried to haul a Twenty Two 200 miles and forgot to air them all the way up. I usually run them around 50 psi for regular service because if I keep them at 100 without a good load on them they wear the centers out of the tread.

I'll get pictures of our spare, which is a disk center like yours, and find out where we got it for you. I could probably get you one and give it to you next time we're together at Tulare/Santa Margarita/Tractor Don's BBQ, if you like.

Pete.

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8 years 9 months ago #142182 by sdmuleman
Replied by sdmuleman on topic OT - Trailer Rim Source
Hadn't thought about making one, that might not be a bad option. I do have a cnc mill and lathe big enough to machine that, though would still have to get the rim and I'm not sure my welds are goo enough to really trust doing something that important.

Pete, if you can look into it I'd appreciate it. I'm planning to be at the SM show, so we can tie in there if it works out. Might be worth getting a set of them and running the radials just to get a bit more load capacity. My crawler and backhoe both are both heavy enough to be right on the max load for it so I worry a about it though so far no issues. Really I need a bigger trailer, and a bigger truck and.... but this trailer is very nice for what it is and what I do with it.

Thanks.

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8 years 9 months ago #142201 by mrsmackpaul
Replied by mrsmackpaul on topic OT - Trailer Rim Source
those 15 inch rims were standard on older low beds even in the US not sure when they changed but all the US low bed's that the US army used in WW2 used 15 inch rims eg on Rogers floats oop's lowbeds so the rims I would think should be lying around at truck wreckers etc my float still use's them Swishy that used to be on here all the time his floats use them
I guess what Im saying is they are a very common rim

Paul

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8 years 9 months ago #143639 by Garlic Pete
Replied by Garlic Pete on topic Wheels and Tires.
Sorry this took a while John, but here are some pictures of the spare rim we bought for our trailer.

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It is an 14.50 x 6.00 rim to mount 8.00 x 14.50 tires, but I can get the rim in a 15.00 x 7.50 size, which I think would work together with what you have. I think that size could replace what you have, if you wanted to do away with the two piece rims.

We got this one from Clerou Tire in Bakersfield. They said their price for a 15.00 x 7.50 six bolt rim like this would be $70.00. 16 ply bias tires, similar to what we're running on our trailer, but the right size for your wheels would be $70.00 each. Same size radials would be $75.00 to $80.00.

If you'd like me to pick up one rim and tire, four or five and bring them to Santa Margarita, let me know. We should probably double check your hole spacing and offset, just to make sure we don't end up with something that won't quite fit.

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Pete.

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8 years 9 months ago #143669 by ChuckC
Replied by ChuckC on topic OT - Trailer Rim Source
Try e-trailer.com
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8 years 9 months ago #143674 by mrsmackpaul
Replied by mrsmackpaul on topic OT - Trailer Rim Source
IS that a split rim Pete as I think that is what will required to get the same type of tyre on the rim as John is chasing

Paul

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8 years 9 months ago #143882 by Garlic Pete
Replied by Garlic Pete on topic One piece.
mrsmackpaul - No, these are one piece, drop center rims. I thought that what Jlahun was looking for was the possibility to eliminate the two piece rims and go to a one piece, drop center. He mentioned possibly just getting a spare, which he doesn't have. If he does just go the spare route, of course it might be nice to have common wheels and tires with the four runners, although having the spare different isn't a real problem. As long as the spare is close enough in size and capacity to be useable, it should be O. K.

What I found was that these wheels and tires are cheap enough, and at 16 ply, capacity is high enough on the tires, that I didn't have any trouble. The hard part about two piece rims over here is half the tire guys think they're all bombs and are afraid to touch them. It makes it hard when you need service somewhere that you aren't familiar with all the vendors.

Pete.

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8 years 8 months ago #144035 by sdmuleman
Replied by sdmuleman on topic OT - Trailer Rim Source
Pete, thanks. Do you have a contact at the tire shop? Got a few questions on them and it seems best to just call them directly.

I'll probably just get 4 of those rims & radial tires - looks like those tires are rated ~4k ea which will be a nice safety margin since right now I'm running pretty much right at max load on the tires when hauling the crawler or backhoe. Then I can use on the current set as a spare and be good to go.

Probably will just pick them up from the store myself since I'll be going by there a few times next month. Not sure the finances will support getting them before SM.

Paul, yes the current rims are split tube type. As long as I can get tires to match the new rims though there's no reason I need to stick with that style and I understand not too many places are willing to work on split rims these days too.

~John

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