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D4 7u pony starter motor brushes

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8 years 9 months ago #141825 by JAKEcatHT4
So I tackled my starter tonight guys.. my brushes seem to be worn pretty bad .Was surprised to see the brushes were not made of graphite. They seem to be copper or bronze. I think I could make them if I could find out what material they are. I'm only lacking one dimension but I think I could figure that one out. Any guesses of what they are made of . Thanks
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8 years 9 months ago #141828 by ccjersey
Search online for the answer to your question. While you might cut a larger brush down to fit your starter, making brushes would not be easy.

I saw a post that mentioned a pony starter repair kit sold online (ebay?). Haven't seen it myself though.

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8 years 9 months ago #141829 by JAKEcatHT4
Thanks ccjersey but it would be no problem. Ive machined brushes before of the graphite kind for the electrical shop at work. I seen a kit or two on ebay but my bushings and springs are in remarkably good shape.

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8 years 9 months ago #141831 by edb
Replied by edb on topic Delco Remy Starter
Hi Team,
brushes are Cat Part No 9B9093 which is Delco Remy 811553.
From memory they are a sintered copper material that is a fairly common usage in starter motors.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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8 years 9 months ago #141838 by rax200
Replied by rax200 on topic brushes on ebay
Here is the link to the brushes used in the starter motor:

www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Brush-Set-Fits-...5-2BdRG7loJiHuGb1b2Q

regards

Daryl

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1944 D4 2T6584SP
1945 D4 2T8978SP
1946 D4 5T6271
1956 D4 7U37855
1954 DH226 S/N 89 Howard Tug

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8 years 9 months ago #141905 by JAKEcatHT4
Thanks for that..I will probably order the kit since it is a special copper process. Can someone explain the commutator a little. I looked online and it talks of commutators being made up of copper bars and mica etc. From what I can see mine looks like the groove is very shallow and gunked up . Can I just regroove and clean them to more depth with a hacksaw blade? Or just clean what groove remains?

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8 years 9 months ago #141913 by STEPHEN

Thanks for that..I will probably order the kit since it is a special copper process. Can someone explain the commutator a little. I looked online and it talks of commutators being made up of copper bars and mica etc. From what I can see mine looks like the groove is very shallow and gunked up . Can I just regroove and clean them to more depth with a hacksaw blade? Or just clean what groove remains?


How about a close up of your com after you clean it good

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8 years 9 months ago #141919 by Old Magnet
Starter commutators do not need the mica undercut. The brushes are hard enough to wear the copper and mica at the same rate. Commutator does need to round and even for brushes to seat properly.

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8 years 9 months ago #141989 by JAKEcatHT4
OM thanks for the info. This starter stuff is new to me. Stephen will get that pic posted soon. I went ahead today and ordered the ebay rebuild kit for $19. The brushes looked pretty indentical to mine and the seller stated the kit was for starters used from 1948-53 on d2, d4 pony motors. Also stopped by the John Deere tractor store and ordered a gasket kit for my Tu4c zenith carb. They didnt have a schematic of the kit so I guess it will be a "shot in the dark".

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8 years 9 months ago #142220 by JAKEcatHT4
Heres a few pics of the commutator
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