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Winch cable question

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1 month 1 week ago #261003 by Breadler
Working on a model 53 winch (D5C) and ready to replace the cable with 200’ of new 1/2”. 

The existing cable was the typical nub/ferrule and pocket, however it was then threaded through a passage on the center of the drum, before winding. Is anyone else familiar with this? What I find odd, is that the passage is smaller than the ferrule, which means I can’t use a swaged ferrule and a swaged thimble eyelet at the working end. Wire clips will be a simple solution, just curious about that center passage. 
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1 month 1 week ago #261004 by 1972RedNeck
Replied by 1972RedNeck on topic Winch cable question
You need the wedge that holds the cable in

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1 month 1 week ago #261005 by Breadler
Replied by Breadler on topic Winch cable question
I have the retaining pin which goes near the ferrule. Where is the wedge installed?

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1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 1 week ago #261006 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic Winch cable question
You need the proper size swedged ferrule...1.63" diameter/42mm and 2" long/51mm.
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1 month 1 week ago #261008 by Breadler
Replied by Breadler on topic Winch cable question
Yep, I believe it is the #B4, 1.63x2.00.

Still hoping to get insight on just running the ferrule in the pocket with the retaining cross pin, vs that plus feeding through the cross passage on the drum.

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1 month 1 week ago #261012 by jbernd56
Replied by jbernd56 on topic Winch cable question
feed the cable through the drum and let the end stick into the square pocket and pour lead around itl

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1 month 1 week ago #261013 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic Winch cable question
None of the literature I have shows anything about attaching the cable. How close is the fit that is preventing you from threading the B4 ferrule?  Could be you can attache either way although I would tend to go for the original version.

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1 month 1 week ago #261046 by Breadler
Replied by Breadler on topic Winch cable question
The passage through the drum is probably 1/2” smaller, than the O.D. Of the ferrule.

The work around would be to use wire clips at the working end. Just not as “clean” as a swedged loop.

Or…use a two piece ferrule, like what is used to repair a choker.

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1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 1 week ago #261051 by trainzkid88
Replied by trainzkid88 on topic Winch cable question
as another suggested cast a lead slug around the cable end what actually holds it is the wraps of cable on the drum. the slug only stops it slipping till it grabs tight on the winch drum. the book will say the minimum number of wraps. never go below that.

many cables used to be terminated this way. often a ferrule was fitted over the cable and then that would be filled with lead.

a note with using cable clamps you want the pinch on the slack side of the loop not the line side so it is always straight and isnt deformed as that creates a stress point where it can fail.
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1 month 1 week ago #261057 by side-seat
Replied by side-seat on topic Winch cable question

a note with using cable clamps you want the pinch on the slack side of the loop not the line side so it is always straight and isnt deformed as that creates a stress point where it can fail.

Slang translation: "Never saddle a dead horse"

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