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D2 steering clutches

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1 year 1 month ago #251976 by clayton
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Hi, I’m in the process of putting the steering drums clutches back in assembled. I have the drums tight on the splines and the shoulder bolts installed in the oval arm thing, not sure what it’s exactly called. Basically besides putting the finals back on and adjusting the adjusters for the steering clutches. I looked through the top and noticed that the arms are in different positions. One has a little bit more play but not much more. What I’m wondering is why is there so much difference? I’m thinking one of the arms might be bent, the shoulder housings on the bottom is worn, or I could have got the arms put back on different sides but I don’t think that should matter. As you can see the adjuster is just sitting in the arm so it’s not interfering with anything. Any help is much appreciated thank you.
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1 year 1 month ago #251977 by clayton
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1 year 1 month ago #251981 by neil
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I think the linkage from your operator's levers to those right angle crank arms are different lengths, if the clutch packs are both in the same relative engaged position.

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Neil

Pittsford, NY

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1 year 1 month ago #251982 by clayton
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Hi Neil, I don’t have any of the linkages or adjusters even close to where they should be for now. What I’m talking about is the yoke arms on the top where the adjusters screw in, they are not the same distance for some reason as you can see from the picture one is about a 1/2 inch closer to the outer housing. They should be the same considering I put all new plates and friction plates on. Only thing I can think of is a yoke is bent, the bottom of the yoke where the ball socket fits into maybe some material is gone, or where the shoulder bolts bolt into the bearing housing one has more or less play. Thank you for your input.

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1 year 1 month ago #251983 by Mike Hudson
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It could be one of several things. We need to determine which of the two is correct. If I’m thinking right the bottom is correct. Just don’t overthink this, simple things cause a lot of grief. Like exact number of plates in each pack and are they all new? Linkages worn the same? I hope you the best and wish I was onsite. Mike Hudson

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1 year 1 month ago #251984 by clayton
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Take the adjusters and linkages completely out of the equation as they aren’t doing anything right now. I have all new clutch plates and friction disc on each side 12 disc and 12 friction totaling 24 on each side. Either something is going on previously said or the yoke arm is stuck possibly but each pack is brand new both the same assembly pack both the same pack thickness as well.

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1 year 1 month ago #251986 by Ray54
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In the top picture the swiveling foot of the adjuster is at more of an angle, than the second picture, why? Is it binding because of rust, to not be straighter like the other? Are other parts of the linkage not moving freely as well?

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1 year 1 month ago #251987 by clayton
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The swivel portion of the adjuster is suppose to be able to move like a ball and socket. The adjuster and steering linkages right now have nothing to do with the top of the yoke arms not being in the same position. The adjusters are just sitting in the yoke’s right now I don’t have either of them tighten up as you can see there’s no bolts there. I have the final drive housing completely removed and both clutch packs are both engaged right now.

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1 year 1 month ago #251990 by neil
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Apologies Clayton, I misunderstood the issue. Yes, I see the difference in where the yokes sit. You can take some reference measurements to see where things sit. For example, from the rear, innermost surface of the steering clutch hub to the side of the transmission case, on each side. If there's a difference between them, then check the distance that each side of the bevel gear shaft protrudes from the transmission case. It could be that the shaft is moved over to the side some. I don't know if it's possible for the bevel gear to be installed on the "other" side of the shaft flange but just thinking of possible reasons. For sure there could be a difference in yoke shape. You'd have to pull them out to compare. Scratching my head as to what else it could be other than the way the release bearing is installed in the yoke - that could also be something worth checking. From memory I think it just sits in the cup and a fastener of some description holds it in.

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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1 year 1 month ago #251995 by clayton
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Hi Neil, I’ve measured the distance from the side cases of transmission housings to the back of the pressure plate they are the same. I’ve got one side of the yoke unbolted completely from the bearing cage assembly. The yoke bolts are in good shape no material gone and the bearing cage housing is in good shape also. The bearing is held in by a big nut with threads on the back of the pressure plate and then you have set screws the lock it in place I took all that apart and put new bearings in. From what I’m seeing so far I believe one of the yokes is bent but not 100% sure until I get everything disassembled. I will disassemble everything this evening and let you know what I find out. Thank you for the brainstorming Clayton.

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