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Comparing tractors: D2 5U VS. IH TD-6 62

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1 year 10 months ago #244274 by juiceman
Heck Toby, I am surprised I didn't get "tarred and feathered" for starting this thread! I really do like my D2s, but my little 62s have a special place here. My brother reminds me that our dad's buddy Raymond Casey used many of the latter IH crawlers on our properties when he did custom work for us. Very good memories. JM

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1 year 10 months ago #244277 by trainzkid88
those petrol start inters are a bit wierd if you havent seen or heard one before.
there is a couple locally.

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1 year 10 months ago - 1 year 10 months ago #244283 by gary in CA
We had a TD14 that usually started pretty easy on gas.It still had the crank in the crank holder so one day we decided to see if it would start with the crank.
First pull it started.Could not believe it.Then other days...well you know... $&##. Cat starting engines are the same
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1 year 10 months ago - 1 year 10 months ago #244284 by td-alan
No “tar and feathers “ here , I like them all ! They all have good and bad about whatever color they might be ! What’s more important is I’ve never met a “ bad tractor guy “ . I have enjoyed spending time with others that share the same interest . I own both yellow and red ones !
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1 year 10 months ago #244294 by trainzkid88
im a machinery agnostic too. though most of our collection is ronaldson-tippet stationary engines(well they were the largest manufacturer in southern hemishpere). we do have a couple IHC's, a stover and a southern-cross

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1 year 10 months ago #244298 by neil
I like the gas can camoflaged on the back of the IH : )

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY

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1 year 10 months ago #244299 by juiceman
Okay, I want to keep harping on the IH here, even though it does not belong on this BB. WHY did IH not ever send a gas/diesel start machine over to Great Britain? My understanding is, all of the "British" or BT tractors that were diesel did not use the same engine as ones in America, rather a glow plug start engine, and not even sure if it was IH built.
Also wondering if the BT crawlers or wheel tractors had the same head cracking issues.
Nice to know that others collect iron of different color as well. JM

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1 year 10 months ago #244303 by Deas Plant.
Hi, Juiceman.
I remember operating a BTD20 dozer way back when which hadda Rolls Royce Diesel in it. I liked it, but then why wouldn't I? It burned diesel fuel made noise, had tracks and moved dirt.

We got a mix of British built and U.S. built IHs DowNunda, wheel and tracked, ag and industrial, but that BTD20 was the only larger one I ever got to operate from either source. I did get to operate a TD9 with a B-E 'bullgrader' for a couple of brief periods - 1 or 2 hours - around 40 years after the BTD20 - liked it too.

I liked 'em but didn't get to operate many 'cos Cats were the preferred brand of most contractors, partly 'coz they lasted better but mostly 'coz of the poor service and parts backup from the IH industrial line distributors, Industrial Sales and Service - ISAS. If it was over about 5 years old, they didn't wanna know about it.

I also only ever got to operate one A-C machine, an HD16A dozer with a cable angle blade, I suspect for similar reasons. Liked it too, although it could be a little 'rough' on the right lunch hook if you weren't very careful when changing gears.

I did get to operate a few more 'Kummagutsa' dozers but not a whole lot.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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1 year 10 months ago - 1 year 10 months ago #244307 by gauntjoh

Okay, I want to keep harping on the IH here, even though it does not belong on this BB. WHY did IH not ever send a gas/diesel start machine over to Great Britain? My understanding is, all of the "British" or BT tractors that were diesel did not use the same engine as ones in America, rather a glow plug start engine, and not even sure if it was IH built.
Also wondering if the BT crawlers or wheel tractors had the same head cracking issues.
Nice to know that others collect iron of different color as well. JM

  


Whilst not an expert on IH machines, a book I have ("The Roar of Dust and Diesel" by Mike Teanby) says tractor production at Doncaster in the UK started in 1949 with the BM.
Prior to 1949 I believe some tractors were assembled at Doncaster from kits imported from the USA. IH started in Doncaster in the late 1930s.
British built models used the US designation but with a B (for British) in front, e.g. BMD6.
The British build diesels (which used glow plugs) had a really good reputation for reliability and "Lugging Power".
By 1952 IH were making diesel engines in Doncaster and putting them in Doncaster built tractors, the first one being the Super BMD.
The contractor I worked for as a teenager had a Doncaster BTD20 with the Rolls Royce (RR) diesel engine as mentioned by Deas. It was regarded as a good machine.
Interestingly, the former RR diesel engine factory in Shrewsbury is now owned by Caterpillar and used for re-manufacturing engines.
As well as my four Cats, I have two David Brown tractors, a 1940 VAK1 wheeled petrol / paraffin (gas / kerosine) wheeled trator, A 30TD diesel crawler, and a Ransomes MG6 crawler.I also have a 1946 Field Marshall contractors model.
As you say JM, many of us have varied collections. 
 

John Gaunt, ACMOC Director, UK
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1 year 10 months ago #244308 by Deas Plant.
Hi, gauntjoh.
I worked for the first 1 1/2 years out of school driving AG Field Marshals on a wheat farm in Western Australia that was owned by two ex-English brothers who had migrated in the late 1920s. Good,solid tractors.

Much later on, a couple of friends who had a truck repair shop had a Ransomes MG5 come in for repairs. They found it VERY useful as a tug to move trucks around in the shop and the adjacent yard. I never got to run it.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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