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1952 caterpillar D2 5U wet clutch, unable to get in gear when running

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3 years 10 months ago #225424 by neil
That's not too bad for an 80 year old design. It'll run fine with that gap. New pistons available from JP Pistons in Oz. I put some in my 5U's pony and they're top notch. There may be some local producers I'm not aware of (I'm in Western NY).

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #225432 by edb
Hi,this Pony Engine Spec sheet should help you with the tolerances these engines have from new and can safely be re-assembled with--they are not high performance Indianapolis 500 race engines and so are fairly forgiving.Cheers,Eddie B.
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3 years 10 months ago #225448 by eisenhart

That's not too bad for an 80 year old design. It'll run fine with that gap. New pistons available from JP Pistons in Oz. I put some in my 5U's pony and they're top notch. There may be some local producers I'm not aware of (I'm in Western NY).

Thanks Neil, I couldn't find JP Pistons(tried Google), but I did find JE pistons in California and I emailed them the 2 3/4" .020 oversize piston specs. Will let you know what they say.

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3 years 10 months ago #225449 by eisenhart

Hi,
this Pony Engine Spec sheet should help you with the tolerances these engines have from new and can safely be re-assembled with--they are not high performance Indianapolis 500 race engines and so are fairly forgiving.
Cheers,
Eddie B.


Thanks Eddie B. I'm having a really difficult time reading these specs, the image is quite small and fuzzy. Do you have a larger image by chance?

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3 years 10 months ago #225453 by kittyman1

That's not too bad for an 80 year old design. It'll run fine with that gap. New pistons available from JP Pistons in Oz. I put some in my 5U's pony and they're top notch. There may be some local producers I'm not aware of (I'm in Western NY).

Thanks Neil, I couldn't find JP Pistons(tried Google), but I did find JE pistons in California and I emailed them the 2 3/4" .020 oversize piston specs. Will let you know what they say.


-their (JE) automotive pistons are top-shelf, interested in what you find!

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3 years 10 months ago - 3 years 10 months ago #225454 by neil
Looks like they're a brand of this company:

www.norndaautomotive.com.au/jp-pistons.html?id=5 and the link to the specific page www.norndaautomotive.com.au/jp-pistons/f...oled,%20petrol%20RBP
The std. piston is JP0154 and when you contact them, specify that you want 020 instead

Here's a link to a thread including 020 pistons on the forum:

www.acmoc.org/bb/discussion-d72/27511-j-...s-jpo154-020?start=0

Or go with JE Pistons - I hear they're very good too

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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3 years 10 months ago #225463 by edb
Hi,
seems I have two of these Page 4 of the Spec sheet set--one blurry and one clear, naturally I got the wrong one so that is now deleted.
Hope this one is clearer for you.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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3 years 10 months ago #225494 by trainzkid88
jp pistons will make you some the killer will be the freight. find another machine shop that offer re-boring services the bores will need to be bored to a size for the job to last simply putting oversize pistons in doesnt work as bores wear oval due to the rotational forces in the engine end they also only wear part of the bore so new pistons if slightly longer skirts may jam in the bore and then bad things happen. look in your local phone directory. also ask your mechanic who they use. it wouldn't cost much to send a bare block and crank to another town to get it done engine re-builders do this all the time they may even do deals with a courier company to get better rates just ask around.

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3 years 10 months ago #225497 by Scoop
Hey guys this is Scoop, I’m also in the middle of a Pony Motor rebuild. It’s a D318 out of a D6 8U Dozer with 3-1/8” bore x 3-1/2” stroke pistons. Waiting to see how the tolerances come back from machine shop but my measurements indicate it will likely need to be oversized .02” to .04”. Doing very well with many parts I need from Florin and some from local CAT dealer. Toughest part now is locating O’size piston supplier. Spoke with JE Piston, the guy there said I would have to send them a Piston to reverse engineer it ... ain’t doin that. Also contacted someone from JP Piston, guy there said to send specs to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Looks like a stateside JP Piston rep from website. Having a tough go at it, hopefully here back from JP soon. Any other sources out there if anybody listening in and may know of would be greatly appreciated. Also wonder just how much getting those darn things to the house is gunna cost, anyone care to venture a guess?

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3 years 10 months ago #225501 by gemdozer
I have 4 pistoms 2f3669 with ring on and the look lke 3.122
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