I believe, from reading the Board minutes, that the George Logue manifold patterns were sent to the Earthmoving Legacy Center with the understanding that ACMOC members could borrow the patterns to use. Why have these patterns now been boxed up and sent to Australia?
Thanks
Ken
Ken,
The patterns have been in ACMOC storage for years with little interest in them. The Club has no ability to put them to use, and frankly, many of the patterns were for items that we have not seen any demand for for quite a long time. Add to this, that the patterns have very likely degraded over time due to environmental conditions, storage, and moving them. To my knowledge, no member has ever borrowed one of the patterns, nor asked to.
Our Australian brothers offered to take them and if any member needs parts made from those patterns that they will happily facilitate getting the parts made. The board felt that this was the best disposition of the patterns, they stay within the Club and are not discarded or given over to a commercial concern.
I do not know what manifold patterns you are referring to, but to the best of my recollection, there may have been one manifold pattern in the bunch, if you are in need of one of those manifolds, let me know and I can get you in touch and I am sure that a good result can come of it.
From what I’ve seen in the Board minutes, you’re right—the George Logue manifold patterns were supposed to be available for ACMOC members to borrow from the Earthmoving Legacy Center. I’m not sure why they’ve now been boxed up and sent to Australia, but it does seem like that changes the original intention. Hopefully the Board or someone involved can clarify if members will still have access or if there’s a way to borrow them while they’re overseas
Hi, Folks.
If those patterns have gone to where I suspect they have gone, I think that club members WILL have access to them, possibly even to the point of having products made from them.
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
if they have gone to chapter 19 they do make reproduction parts. so thats a good thing they could be used to make fresh patterns that can then be used to cast new parts.
that's the thing about casting patterns they have to be maintained and remade occasionally as they are timber and do suffer damage due to age and possible pest attack. they could be used as master patterns to make 3d printed ones that then become the "working" pattern. also once digitised its easier to share them as its a file that you could then use to print your own patterns.
a model engineer i know does his patterns this way design in cad, 3d print it, make sure it fits, then make the moulds and cast the part in metal much simpler than using wooden patterns.
"i reject your reality and substitute my own" - adam savage. i suspect my final words maybe "well shit, that didnt work"
instead of perfection some times we just have to accept practicality
Clarify Please - is someone needing the pattern to have a particular part cast? If the patterns are with ACMOC Chapter/Club, the location is not the issue. It would seem that the part should be specified and then determine if that pattern exists and is useable. The question would be are they needed by someone to use and are they available to have new patterns made and the parts cast based upon these patterns. "trainzkid88" has valid points on the pattern conditions and age. - cts
Are these the patterns the club used to produce the Sixty manifolds? I’ve got a friend that sure would like to buy a set if any are around.
BP
Hi, Bruce.
You might like to contact Chapter 19 direct to see what they can do.
https://acmoc.org/chapters/chapter-nineteen
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Do they have a list of what patterns are there? More people would be more interested if you know what is there for patterns. Are they already gone to Australia?