ain't got no problem with being a "junior member" here----I've been a "junior" for over 63 years. My dad was the "senior"----and my son is the "third".

Looks like ol' RiganDig has about covered most of my expertise---thanks for not showing the worst of it Rig.

In reality---I've never paid much attention to the titles anyway (bulletin boards or real life). Some boards have them---some don't; some people can back up their talk----some can't; and it normally don't take too long to sort them out. You can always check out a user's profile to see how active a poster he is----if that's what you are interested in. Truth of the matter---there are probably numerous highly knowledgeable "Caterpillar" people out there that have never even accessed one of the Cat boards.

I would enjoy the old board's smiles (or at least a broader selection than what is now offered)----but that's not a big deal for right now either.

But, I do say----let's give Joe time to get everything up and running---then he can do a little fine tuning as time allows. There are people still trying to register and gain access that are in the "waiting queque" (based on messages being left over on ACME).

We need to remember that we are dealing with just a hobby for the most of us----and the basic nuts and bolts of the new board is way yonder ahead of the old board.

Delta Dirt

Northart: The "Junior Poster" is a system default. That's just how it comes and neither I nor ACMOC have put it in place. When I installed the forum it wasn't critical, so I haven't adjusted it nor turned it off. There are many, many features of this NEW forum that will be adjusted to suit the membership at large.

As for additional emoticons, that too will be edited and added to as time goes on. Right now my greatest focus is getting all the registrations processed and helping as much as possible with the transition.

Everyone's suggestions are welcome, but please exercise patience. You are being heard but it will be some time for the dust to settle and things to get fine-tuned.

Hello JB,

ON the Job, I gotta react quickly to existing conditions ! So should you, be able to .

Please turn off ( adjust) the "Titles" if you have the power to do so .

This program (feature) did not exist on the previous BB. I see NO redeeming social or expertise value in it !

Just a marketing Gimmick ! Same as with the "Eek" and "Stick out tongue" emoticons that are for the juveniles !

Another feature ( Emoticons) that needs a poll for acceptance !

On some bulletin boards that use this very same software the administrator has left it up to the individual to choose his own tile, it is accessed through the user CP. Thank God Joe had not given us that option. Who knows what grandiose titles some of you might come up with.

"Warren" wrote:

On some bulletin boards that use this very same software the administrator has left it up to the individual to choose his own tile, it is accessed through the user CP. Thank God Joe had not given us that option. Who knows what grandiose titles some of you might come up with

Oooohh .. Warren .. you really know how to hit a guy below the belt, don't you?? ..

Hi. OzDozer - Junior Member.
Welcome to ACMOC's new board, courtesy of Joe Black's efforts and expertise. And thank you, Joe.

I must confess that I am a bit with Northart on the validity of the titles and the fact that you get'em just by the number of posts that you put up and not by the number of years thatchyer backside has been gathering callouses and/or the number of machines that you have/can run effectively or your ability to repair what some heavy-fisted malcontent may have broke or that has just plain wore out.

HOWEVER, having said the above, how honest are some people going to be about the justice/truth/deservedness of their claims to whatever title they may wish to lay claim to? How well does the old 'honesty box' system work today? And who's the judge?

You all have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

"Northart" wrote:

Hello JB,

ON the Job, I gotta react quickly to existing conditions ! So should you, be able to .

Please turn off ( adjust) the "Titles" if you have the power to do so .

This program (feature) did not exist on the previous BB. I see NO redeeming social or expertise value in it !

Just a marketing Gimmick ! Same as with the "Eek" and "Stick out tongue" emoticons that are for the juveniles !

Another feature ( Emoticons) that needs a poll for acceptance !

First off, this isn't my job. It's my hobby that I pursue with great interest and passion which led me to put forth the efforts I have on the Internet to support the community. Second, I can turn it off, but will only do so at the behest of ACMOC. So address your local chapter and run it up through the chain of command. Thirdly, before lableing something you don't understand as a "marketing gimmick" take a little time to research your argument so you'll be more effectively informed. Here's all you'll need to know about the software used on this forum: www.vbulletin.com

Thank you,

Joe Black

First, I want to thank ringading (sp?) for posting those very unusual photos. The one that appears to record people in the most compromising position is the landing jet airplane - note the runway workers looking up in disbelief as the plane begins to touch down. Amazing photos!

As for Northart and others who are experienced operators of Caterpillar machines: I admire those of you who can operate these machines and repair them. I come to this hobby with no experience. But I like to be around the equipment, and I'm in this hobby for fun. By being in the club, I'm not pretending to be something other than what I am: an observer, who owns a few Cats, and often has to have help to get the pony engines going. I don't have mechanical skill, I don't have a lot of strength, but I enjoy the machines.

I hope those like Northart do not "look down" on folks like me, but if they do, that is their problem.

I am aware that one of the reasons I lost the election for the board of directors a couple of years ago was that I was not known as a Cat operator. In my humble opinion, it is a mistake to evaluate the value of a person by how he makes his living or his skill at operating Caterpillar equipment. If you were hiring me to operate equipment, that would be a proper criterion. If you were hiring me for the board of directors, then the proper criterion would be (among others) whether or not I knew how to run a non-profit operation. Those are different skills from operating a bulldozer.

So Northart and others, I wish I had your skills. But I'm in the hobby, and people like me ought to be welcomed - and maybe taught more about operating and repairing and maintaining the equipment.

GWH

Northart: Im not so sure about the marketing asspect but it does encourage some to make posts about things they really have little or no hands on exp. they get their info from a Cat Inc. book as it is the gospel.
Deas; Im not seeing what your saying fits in this at all, this tractor collecting hobby is full of dishonest buyers and sellers.
The purpose of this site if for gathering info on restoration & parts along with preserving the history of Best, Holt and pre 1960 Caterpillar machinery & equip.And to share stories & experiances about those topics. Everytime we allow discussion about repairing and parts of post 1960 Cat Equip we are breaking or agreement with Cat Inc.and putting our right to use Caterpillar name and to reproduce pre 1960 parts,models and litrerature in jeprody.
An example would be on top of Joes website thers 3 pics being used with out permission or credits, those pics are property of Cat Inc. they are protected by Pat. and copywright laws permision to use them has to be granted by Cat Inc. ohter then personal use such as ACMOC and a few pulblishers. just beacuase we buy the book dosnt give us right to repo any of its contents, This may well comeback to haunt him and possablly cost him money someday. How do you think ACMOC got moved to Peoria under the big thunb of Cat Inc. it sure wasnt because the founders wanted it that way, but it does have its upsides allso, like legally being able to do what we do.

GWH; I for sure am one of those who would NOT hire you as and opperator LOL, But do enjoy helping you and others master that skill. Its something that dosnt take much education but does take good common sense and lots of practice and its very had to get much practice if you only get to do it at a few shows a yr, thats where those of us have the advantage of being around them all our lives. Thats why I allways welcome people to stop by my place learn the basics and go out in the field and get some stick time in.
But you also have your expertese, After attending a BoD meeting I admire the way you keep things in order and on track. also along with others getting our club back in shape I for one thank you for your dedication and hard work with ACMOC