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Older video of a D2 baling with an International 430

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2 months 3 weeks ago #258219 by neil
Can't tell if he's in 2nd or 3rd - I'd guess 2nd 
www.youtube.com/shorts/kzpLFEe19DI
 

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Neil

Pittsford, NY
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2 months 3 weeks ago #258229 by D8Dude
I don't know what's more intriguing, a crawler pulling a hay baler or the bale ejector/thrower on the end of the chamber. I've seen them on YouTube before but it's not something I've ever seen in existence in my part of the world. Small square bale handling in my area never really developed beyond bale pushers, elevators and trucks or trailers. Round bales took over and small square bales became obsolete.

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2 months 3 weeks ago - 2 months 3 weeks ago #258235 by neil
I too had never seen / heard of bale throwers before seeing them on youtube. Seems a pity to take away the opportunity for teenagers to develop some strength over summer. When I was a kid, we had no shortage of schoolkids wanting to earn money by haycarting. I spent three summers at it and it was a highlight of the year for sure, although looking back it meant I missed out on the beach and girls : ) at least for part of summer
I also like the involutary swerve the cameraman took as the bale came flying out of the baler : )

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Neil

Pittsford, NY
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2 months 3 weeks ago #258251 by D8Dude
Sad to say, but around here I think the majority of teenagers these days would see hay carting as a burden and not an opportunity, and I'd be hard pressed to find anyone to put their hands on a small square bale. It baffles me how I see holders of small acreage pay to have small squares done, and then let them get rained on countless times until they are barely worth picking up.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #258252 by D4Jim
Just to be different, I would guess he is in third gear based on the size of the windrow and the need to feed the 430 at the max for uniform bales. If he would be on a steep hill with a trailer load then it is maybe 2nd gear for that. Just my opinion!! :) :)
Never seen a cat pull a baler in these parts. Seen JD B models pulling 430''S and they are below 30 hp, I think the 430's have been around about 50 years.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #258255 by side-seat
I don't miss the bale thrower! When I was like 12-13 I would help on a neighbors horse farm with the same baler pulled by a little International gas 444. I would get a few stacked then... here comes another one. The farmer got a big laugh when the bales would knock me on my ASS.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #258257 by neil
Almost all the bales I carted were produced by an International 440. I can't imagine how many bales that machine produced as it was already pretty old when I started and I was involved in moving 250k bales over those three years. One excellent mod the boss made to it was to fit a blower directed at the knotters to keep them clear - worked a treat. The blower was belt-driven from the flywheel. A mechanic at the IH dealership that came to work with us liked the baler because he said that all the timing measurements on it were one inch, so he said it was very easy to time after fitting new bearings. The other thing I liked about it (and many PTO implements are like this but some aren't) is the placement of a support bearing the same distance back from the hitch axis as the tractor output shaft is forward of that hitch point, meaning a nicely balanced pair of angles so when turning, driveline mis-phasing was reduced. Still had an angle at the flywheel which they could have handled with a CV joint but it was just a universal joint. Mostly ran that baler with a 2140 JD 2wd which was just about the nicest balanced tractor I've ever used. Superb to operate and really good on mowers too
Jim, you're probably right - couldn't tell from the angle how fast it was travelling

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Neil

Pittsford, NY

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2 months 3 weeks ago #258259 by Ray54
I did I ever say I live in sidehill county? 😉 A crawler on a baler was not that unusual, but not a normal thing ether. It just meant somebody was overly energetic and optimistic about how easy it would be making hay on a hillside.

Yes I have had a crawler on my baler a number of times. I used the 9u D6 one year as it was the handiest to the job. Mostly a AC HD 5. Did use a 5u D2 the property owner had on site. Thankfully until the air pollution police got their nose in farmers business, 98% of balers out here had their own engine. No PTO needed. Today I just cannot imagine using a crawler on a baler, as I have 60 hp White 4x4 that has tires over 8 foot wide.
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