Juiceman.  I thought I knew my trailing cat plows, I used to have an Atlas know all about them but that green John Deere looking plow in your picture has got me! Not a bad looking plow does it have bottoms that you can find parts for? The problem with the Atlas it cost more to have new shares made than the plow is worth if you can even find a Blacksmith that could do it.    THANKYOU  17afarmer. Mike

17AFarmer (Mike) Like all the plows here, I got the JD from an auction for a petty amount of $. The thought of replacing plowshares crossed my mind. We have a little 3 point 3 bottom rollover JD that needed some parts, and NOTHING. I don’t even know of any blacksmith shops around Northern California that could make any.
My Atlas definitely needs some, another one where I spent more on tires and hoses. Nice guy Mr. Robert Shaver replaced all of the hoses for me, so others could borrow it at Santa Margarita where it is parked.
The JD 4 bottom? I joined a JD plow group on social media, and none of the experts there could tell me anything about it. It works great, I just wish it had coulters. A few more pictures for everyone and for Neil, he should just look for a little Killefer chisel and modify it to hydraulics if he doesn’t want to tug on the trip ropes.
Plows and old JD Killefer items around here are plentiful it seems. JM

Juiceman, that’s a John Deere-Killefer 4FD “two way plow” look for parts book PC 781 for parts.

There were a few around here prior to being replaced by the Wilcox version. Culters were not used for the way / reason why we plowed in this part of the country.

We had one of those Case disc plows when they were farming out on Union Island. This was for use after sugar beets dealing with the conditions after harvest. Apparently they took it down to Five Points to try on cotton stubble ant they kept on breaking the hangers off. Up until scrap prices went up in the early 2000’s there was 3 right down the road from where you got that scraper abandoned, never saw them moved before that. I was told that they were built in Stockton.

CR. You are right Case was building equipment in Stockton, in the 60s we were using a JD KILLEFER disk and my dad got the idea of a wheel disk because it would be easier to move, the Case dealer in Turlock brought out 3 of those Stockton made Case disks and not one of them would disk level and do a decent job , long story shorter we keep using the KILLEFER I would have given almost anything for an Archer 4 wheel carrier ,life would have been a lot simpler! 17afarmer

Neil: You may as well get everything. Ripper, chisel, disk, plow harrow, (cultipacker? that is a ring roller). You can even buy an "all in one" type unit, such as a Wilcox "Eliminator" which is a single pass unit that does everything in one pass for a seedbed. JM

We don’t plow it brings the alkaline and salts back up that we’ve been trying to push down for decades, Skinner

Hi, juiceman.
If you need points - or whatever you call them - the wearable pieces on the bottom of the 'bottom', try having them plasma or water jet cut from some sort of steel like Bisalloy, hardox, T1, T2 or similar. Blacksmiths with that sort of knowledge are like hen's teeth, rocking horse manure or honest politicians these days.

That said, it might be worth asking the blacksmith crew at Santa Margarita if they can do it or if they know of someone who can. Tom Madden may have their contact details of know of someone who does.

Just my 0.02.

Kind of a sloppy old trick I learned on the forums years ago. Cut about 4" off an old spingtooth and weld it on to create new point. I have done this many times and it has worked well for me.