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1 year 11 months ago #243905
by OldSammy11
Howdy from Canada. I happen to have inherited a mid-50’s D6 from my dad, which used to be my grandpa’s. I’ve driven it, like 20 years ago. As far as I know the clutches and one brake work. It was probably last started about 10 years ago. It’s too cold now to work on it but I’m pretty sure the pony motor will turn over, and might even start. I’m wondering though if I should just skip the hassle and jump right to an electric start conversion. I’ll use it around my farm to do the odd bit of dirt work and maybe pull my tractor out if it gets stuck, and maybe move snow in the winter. So while it’s worth a bit to me to get it going, it’s more important that I can rely on it once in a while, so I’d put the money into a conversion if I knew I was getting a reliable unit out of it. I’m sure this is a common topic around here, so feel free to point me towards the best info.
Thanks!
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1 year 11 months ago #243906
by Deas Plant.
Hi, OldSammy11.
Welkum too 'yellow feverville'. Those old D6s were among the most bullet-proof tractors of their time - and for some time after that too.
I come from a somewhat warmer climate than you - but still a little short of 'Devilsville' - and so have no experience with direct electric start on these old girls in your climate but I can imagine that some kind of heating might be helpful with direct electric start in the depths of your winters. Others here will be able to give you more detail than I can.
There izza guy up in Lynn Lake, Northern Manitoba - King of Obsolete - who uses those old girls to make a living hauling snow trains in winter:
kingofobsolete.ca/
www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/lynn-lake
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
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1 year 11 months ago #243911
by trainzkid88
personally i would see if you can get the bits to make the pilot engine electric start at least if the electric starter doesn't work you can rope start it. remember the pilot is the glow pug for the main engine.you want to avoid using ether(aerostart) near a engine as much as possible it not kind on them. the pilot start allow you to build oil and fuel pressure before actually firing the main and also warm it a bit as the pilot coolant is also circulating in the main engine.
thats my opinion anyway.
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1 year 11 months ago #243914
by PhilC
A mid 50;s D6 will be either a 9U or 8U. The pilot motor will already have a starter motor on it.
You can get per-combustion chambers with provision for pencil heaters to aid in starting (Old Magnet would know the part numbers). You could also add a block heater for the winter months.
944A - Machine SN 43A2589 Engine SN 90A284
955K- Machine SN 71J3772 Engine SN 83Z0704
D6 SN's 4R732sp, 5R2724, 5R4832
D8 SN's 15A1254, 15A2287, 15A2723
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1 year 10 months ago #244199
by Kurt Bangert
OldSammy - Welcome aboard, it is very cool to have inherited the family CAT! You have come to the right place for info and advice, I'd highly recommend joining up to access the library that has scans of many Caterpillar manuals and get the magazine at the same time. We'd love to have you, and we're glad you came by and posted.
Kurt
D4 D 78A 6678
D4 6U 1139
RD4 4G223W
D2 5U 1164
JD 350B
JD 420C
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1 year 10 months ago #244216
by neil
I second a block heater for our climate as the quality of the start is much improved, even for engines that normally "require" ether. Not much of a starting system is required, and in the case of an electric start conversion, makes it a safer prospect. Many engines of that era / design are not reliable cold starters so the block heater makes them reliable and that's what you want with an electric start. The advantage of the pony start of course is that it acts as both a block heater (sort of) and a starter motor that you can wind over endlessly. The downside is that they can be cantankerous if not maintained. My buddy's D4 though is at the extreme "good" end of the starting spectrum in that it would darn near start by winding over the cooling fan so an electric start on that unit wouldn't require block heating, even in our climate
Cheers,
Neil
Pittsford, NY
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1 year 10 months ago #244218
by Old Magnet
The serial number of your D6 is required when considering direct electric start.
Glow plug chambers only fit late s/n units without machine work. Late model units already have provision for direct electric start. Early units would require boring the flywheel housing.
For the ultimate reliability and convenience you can have both pony and direct electric start.
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