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D4D engine swap can I use Gen 3304 motor?

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2 years 2 months ago #240470 by Basdas
Hello Acmoc members I have a caterpillar D4D with a rod nocking motor with lots of metal in oil filter. I have found this 3304 cat generator and was thinking of using the long block in Lou of completely rebuilding the stock oil starved dozer motor.  

The D4D has the number 83J1795 I have found a generator with a 3304 a serial number of 04B23081 with an arrangement number of 8N5751. The generator has a turbo on it and is rated at 118 hp the D4D dozer is rated at 95 according to Caterpillar.

I know the front cover and injector pump/governor will need to come off the tractor motor bad motor and put on the generator motor. From what I understand the block and head will work fine the cam is a different part number according to Caterpillar.

Does anybody know if there is a significant difference between the dozer cam and the stationary generator motor cam? Or are they so close and that it won’t make any difference?

obviously I’m trying to save some money here and time without doing a complete tear down on the original dozer motor. Any advice or input or someone who I might call that would know for sure.

Thanks for your time guys and gals appreciate it Brett
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2 years 2 months ago #240473 by trainzkid88
the injectors, governor and pistons could be different too. might be better to find a matching block or short motor to get what you need. depending on exactly what happened it may not be that difficult or expensive to repair the damaged engine. but that requires pulling it down and inspecting everything.

yes it might be cheaper but then your machine isnt as original. might put undue stress on other driveline parts due to higher output plus the unforeseen issues in making it fit.
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2 years 2 months ago #240479 by Old Magnet
One of the main differences between Industrial/stationary engines and tractors  is in the lubrication system. Industrial engines usually have a single section sump oil pump where tractors use a forward and rear scavenge system with a three section pump to accommodate inclined usage. If the oil pump is damaged it may not be transferable to the Industrial engine.
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2 years 2 months ago #240482 by Basdas
Good point on the oil pick up. Yeah finding used 3304 is in Southern California is like in the sea ‘ cause they want them all in the scrap yard. This is the first one I’ve seen in two years. But thanks guys for the input any other insight would be great.

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2 years 2 months ago #240504 by Jason
I would open it up first and see what has failed. Maybe just need to change the crank and a connecting rod or two. Was it run with out oil or did it just slowly start knocking. if it is a con rod you should be able to see it as soon as you have removed oil pan. I have done swaps from different machines ( ag to construction / gen to construction ) and it has always been just as much or more work than if customer had just gotten a crank. Usually front and rear structures are different intake and exhaust manifolds fuel system flywheel and the list goes on.
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2 years 2 months ago #240506 by trainzkid88
the bonus of rebuilding that engine is you know what its like. where as a different engine can have other problems you dont know about.

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