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2 years 6 months ago #238139
by bursitis
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sorry grant i didn't bookmark the amish link but i'll bet you can find it if you search for "wheel bearings for steel wagon wheels" or something like that. the bearings are a long straight caged set of rollers about the size of a pencil. looks kind of like a gross needle bearing. the thrust is taken up with washers.
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2 years 6 months ago #238151
by GrantJ
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I will go exploring . Thanks for the potential places to look. Grant.
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2 years 6 months ago #238153
by naylorbros
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There are no Timken or Hyatt style bearings in the wheels. There is a wear sleeve on the axle and another wear sleeve in the wheel. The end play is taken up by the washer on the inside with the cotter pin through it. Each of the grooves in the washer is a different height, which is used to adjust the end play.
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2 years 6 months ago #238161
by D2Fred
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Naylor bros. has it down, these are the same as a lot of JD equipment. Bronze sleeve that uses copious amounts of grease to stay alive. The castle nut can be adjusted but my experience these need to be greased a lot and find the thickest nastiest stuff you can find.
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2 years 6 months ago #238164
by bursitis
Replied by bursitis on topic off topic- Killefer 15-20 pan breaker
thanks naylorbros. in my search i found some discussion mainly for the amish. they seem to have adapted a straight roller bearing and even a more modern tapered bearing for these old steel wheel wagons and implements. if the hubs are bronze bushings and wear inserts that would be easy for a machine shop to make new parts for,even bore out the old hub and make new to fit.
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2 years 6 months ago #238183
by naylorbros
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The sleeve in the wheel should have a white iron (chilled iron) wear surface, hard as glass and at times almost as brittle. The axle sleeves seamed to be a mild steel, at least that is what I used when I made new ones. When greasing I take one on my volume compressors with grease in it and pump away.
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