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D69U hydraulic pump removal

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2 years 9 months ago #236080 by PhilC
Replied by PhilC on topic D69U hydraulic pump removal
You are correct they are worn but I have seen much worse. If a new cartridge cannot be sourced then you could resurrect the old pump by getting the side plates lapped and a new cam ring and vanes. parts.cat.com says the 8F3445 has been indirectly replaced. I took a look in SIS and none of the replacement part numbers show up in any searches.

944A - Machine SN 43A2589 Engine SN 90A284
955K- Machine SN 71J3772 Engine SN 83Z0704
D6 SN's 4R732sp, 5R2724, 5R4832
D8 SN's 15A1254, 15A2287, 15A2723
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2 years 9 months ago #236081 by Old Magnet
What's the s/n of the #46 unit and what cartridge part number (Cat part #) if known? There are several.
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2 years 9 months ago #236088 by josh
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That cartridge looks repairable to me, The end plates can be either be built up then milled flat or lapped and shimmed when cartridge is installed, the ring can be smoothed out on a spindle sander, with new bearings and proper setup, should be usable.
Attica Hydraulics used to rebuild those cartridges, maybe still do.
www.ahx1.com/
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2 years 9 months ago #236095 by trainzkid88
well attica still list vickers on thier web site so i would say so. if they can still get the bits that is. it would be worth a phone call. they dont just do exchange they also do repair and return too.
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2 years 9 months ago #236138 by yellercat
Guys, thanks for all of your replies. Been away from the net for a few days, unavoidably.
Yes, the bearings are bad and have really messed the side plates up. That seems a bigger problem that the 'cam' and vanes to me.
Mag, don't have the serial off the back of the tank yet; why in the World is it located there??
Have some leads to check on parts and repair now, so will get to work on it .
Would be open to purchase the needed parts privately if anyone happens to know of some..... and I do have a complete pony motor with pinion and mag available for trade if so....
The apparent wear inside of the cam that the vanes ride on is authentic. Darn it !
Really is in sad shape overall. Just hope it is not the death knell for the old girl......
Appreciate everyone's comments and thoughts.
yellerc@

D6-9U

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2 years 9 months ago #236139 by neil
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If you elect not to repair it and can't find an OEM alternative, you can always just fit up a generic pump and control to replace it. More than a few Cats have generic hydraulics on them. surpluscenter.com

Cheers,
Neil

Pittsford, NY
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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #236140 by Rome K/G
If you cant find another pump cartridge, dont give up the ship, there are plenty of good used complete units out there.
Check with Zimmerman Tractor, 573-378-7210
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2 years 8 months ago #236168 by Ray54
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One advantage of non Cat you can add more valves, so you can add tilt cylinder. I did that to a 9u. With a clever friend even created a joy stick to control blade and tilt. The main thing is get a pump with at least 50 GPM as with the rams are big and move very slow at lower GPM. I believe the Cat unit is over 60 GPM, maybe 65.
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2 years 8 months ago #236169 by Old Magnet
Close, it's actually a 70 gpm rated pump. The problem with generic replacement is it's hard to find such a large pump to run low pressure 1000-1200 psi.
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2 years 8 months ago #236271 by trainzkid88
and its a little hard for hydraulics techs of today to understand these are low pressure high flow systems and we can still safely use the clamp type fittings of course you fit brand new high tensile fasteners. modern systems use higher pressures to make things lighter and more compact.
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