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CAT D6C lubricant question

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2 years 11 months ago #232986 by kittyman1
Yikes, bright grey color, not sure what that means....combination of moisture, acids from combustion, ash+ soot contaminants and the list goes on..

-can you expand on his reasoning Neil ? does he believe OIL never breaks down or wears out etc..not even the additives?
-what about changing the oil filter? is that a waste of time and money as well?

always dropping GOLD, all you have to do is just pick it UP !

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2 years 11 months ago #232987 by oldbeek
Replied by oldbeek on topic CAT D6C lubricant question
Alkyl Zink was pulled out of automobile motor oil because it fouled Catalytic converters and they failed before the 5 year warranty ran out. Big 3 auto makers forced the change of the api spec. I used to have the documents and back room letters on the subject. Remember in the late 70s when engines started having more failures? I ran diesel spec oil in my entire fleet of 3000 vehicles. 

Cat 12 grader, 8T6995 running and restoring, Cat 12 grader 9K3585. parts machine, Adams leaning wheel Pull grader Mod # 22, ser#438

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2 years 11 months ago #233011 by Cable
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I don’t know any history on the unit. He just picked it up and its a fully functional machine. Just looking to do some maintenance and fluid changes on it. I had heard that gear oil potentially could cause damage to the Cone seals in the final drives, but not sure on that. It was apparently due to the EP additives in it. 

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2 years 11 months ago #233013 by Cable
Replied by Cable on topic CAT D6C lubricant question
The saying Ive heard and live by is “oil is cheaper than Iron”.
Better to maintain the lube oils than have Metal parts start failing due to poor lubrication.

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2 years 11 months ago #233021 by trainzkid88
wombat i agree oil is cheap parts are not. a friend of the family told me when his dad was a grader operator for the shire council he would always grease it at the end of the day even if it was pouring rain 1 the machine lasts longer and 2 your already dirty so whats a little more grime going to do and bonus you simply simply start the machine in the morning and go to work your not smelling of grease and oil all day.

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2 years 11 months ago #233025 by bursitis
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i think there was a copper bellows type seal used in the final drives in the 1930 1940's era. i guess the ep additives in gl5 could affect them over time.  i also think thhe ep additives have changed a little over time also????

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2 years 11 months ago #233029 by dpendzic
Replied by dpendzic on topic CAT D6C lubricant question
I read somewhere on a gear oil site that the additives in GL5 were modified a little so it wouldn't affect bronze parts

D2, D3, D4, D6, 941B, Cat 15
Hancock Ma and Moriches NY

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