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A chance to work on the 8T

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3 years 5 months ago #228840 by Fat Dan
I got a chance to work on the 8T today, first chance I've had to work on one of them. Only had about an hour before my back gave out but it was enough time to pull the hood assess a game plan. I was going to pull the carb but decided to get a battery and see if there's spark and if it will fire. I pulled it over by hand once ... had some (not the best) compression.Pony oil has a whiff of gas needs changed ... looks good n feels smooth between fingers but the gas small I don't like. Full tank of gas and it smelled like an air freshener in a ten year old outhouse.... EW. Really it didn't smell that bad. Very little air and cap was tight ... still going to drain and flush gas tank and change pony oil next chance I get.

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade

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3 years 5 months ago #228841 by edb
Replied by edb on topic A chance to work on the 8T
Hi Fat Dan,
it has been noted by myself and others that these small horizontal ponies generally will not start if the oil is fuel diluted in any amount and will also show signs of low compression.
In my experience simply changing the pony oil the engine will fire easily afterwards.
I also find that premium fuel/gasoline without alcohol lasts for a longer time than cheaper rating fuels.
Good luck with it.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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3 years 5 months ago #228846 by Fat Dan
Replied by Fat Dan on topic A chance to work on the 8T
edb ...Thanks so much for the info. I'll stay in touch as I get more time to work one the old rigs.

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade

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3 years 5 months ago #228995 by Fat Dan
Replied by Fat Dan on topic A chance to work on the 8T

Hi Fat Dan,
it has been noted by myself and others that these small horizontal ponies generally will not start if the oil is fuel diluted in any amount and will also show signs of low compression.
In my experience simply changing the pony oil the engine will fire easily afterwards.
I also find that premium fuel/gasoline without alcohol lasts for a longer time than cheaper rating fuels.
Good luck with it.
Cheers,
Eddie B.


Thanks so much Eddy B I put your advice to good use and concentrated on the gas and oil in the pony.
The oil had gas in it and gas had water in it.
No end play on the pony crank . not sure about piston rod lash.
also the cylinder valves were open which will help greatly with compression.
the carb was dry and dusty but needed a good scrubbing and gaskets n freshened jetting ports
old style cork float, valve n seat in good working order
the tank's petcock and petcock port were plugged with water, rust, goop .
the Zink water separator and petcock were completely plugged and has lots of pitting damage from water.
the small brass leaf filter was gone.
opened the drain on the bottom and took off the petcock and northing came out ... tank was full. t
when the dam broke it puked gack n gas
scoped the tank and looked fair ... cleaned up nicely supersized
 

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade

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3 years 5 months ago #228997 by Fat Dan
Replied by Fat Dan on topic A chance to work on the 8T
How much oil will the horizontal pony for the D318 hold?
It is a lili bigger than the pony for the D315 which holds a little more a quart
Sorry I don't have the O&M or service manuals yet

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade

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3 years 5 months ago #229003 by edb
Replied by edb on topic A chance to work on the 8T
Hi FD,
you sure got a load of water for a long time with that one.
OMI Capacity chart below for the 8T and 80C.
Cheers,
Eddie B.
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3 years 5 months ago #229005 by Ray54
Replied by Ray54 on topic A chance to work on the 8T
It holds less than 2 quarts. After I spill a little 2 qts is gone.
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3 years 5 months ago #229007 by Fat Dan
Replied by Fat Dan on topic A chance to work on the 8T
Sound about right. LOL
Thanks everyone
Hope to roll smoke next week.... still looking at diesel engine and fluid levels and for any other type of cross contamination

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Traxcavator: 60, 955E 12A08263; 57, 955C 12A04040; 57, 955C 12A03563.
1954 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 8T14777.
1945 No.12 Diesel Motor Grader 9K9320; 9K9982
1944-46 Adams Model No. 311 Motor Grader
1943 IH T9 Tractor w/ Bullgrader Blade

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