For those of you who have the 3T conversions I would like to obtain more information on how the nose cone was adapted to mount to the bell housing. Would appreciate any pictures. I have included a few pics of what I have but would like more input. The pics of the 3T nose show kind of a hack um up version of fabrication that I think were shown on the mentioned ACME Auto-electric website so check what you might be getting. Also can anyone supply info on how the D8 (2U) with no mounting flange gets adapted. Thanks

Also a pic of a D7-7M starter installation.....what about that adapter plate??

I guess if you have enough battery, you could spin the main engine with the compression off, because I like the idea of having oil pressure before engaging the compression. It just has to be better for the bearings. Of course it would be nice when working and the engine is warm to not have to go through the whole pony rutine, so I find a slope and shut down there. The restart has to do with gravity and third gear. By the way, can you tow start a 19a with the F/O torque converter- it has a manual clutch but I don't know if the converter will fill to lock up and spin the main?

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I have been starting my D4 7U for over 30 years with it's pony motor and have had very little trouble. The pony motor fires almost always on the second pull of the starter rope. I have a CAT 12 71D blade that is a factory built direct start 24 volt system and it does not fire up all that easy. It likes a little ether even in hot weather and it does not start in cold weather without being plugged in a few hours. I think the pony motor is less trouble than replacing batteries and all that. The pony motor is especially nice to prime the fuel filters after servicing them. The 71D has a manual priming pump that is a work out to use to prime the fuel system. If you are going to convert to an electric sarter, you might consider adding an electric fuel pump. Good luck.

It seems that those who have converted to electric starters like them fine. Of course, they liked electric starters fine before or they wouldn't have converted. If I was using my machine every day, I'd say electric is the way to go. Since excavators showed up on the scene, I'm lucky to get one small job in a year. Batteries not used seem to go bad quicker than those in regular use. The luck I have with batteries in seldom used equipment, I'd have to figure on a set of batteries per job. Then there's the corrosion. I spend as much time cleaning batteries and boxes as I do on all other aspects of regular maintenance combined. My pony motors have been pretty trouble free. I'm keeping them.

Hi Jack,
It seems the guy that doesn't like direct electric start is the guy that doesn't have one:) Might look in to the "Optima" batteries..."0" maintenance and I've got a couple over five years old on occasional service.....no corrosion.

Of course it also could be said he doesn't have one because he doesn't like them.

I have a 6v dying right now. Is there an Optima 6v group 1 size available? I don't think I've ever seen the brand.

Hi Jack,
They do make a 6V, not sure of the group size. Do a "google" search on "Optima", even Interstate handles them (spiral wrap cell technology).
Might consider using a 12V for the pony electric start, won't hurt them and cuts down on battery inventory even if the charging system is not a match.

Don't need one for the pony start, but would consider them if they are in the rope & cordage business. I wear out a rope now and then. Or maybe they make cranks too?

It's my Towmotor, all 6v King-Seely instruments included that needs a 6v right now, as well as my JD B. The '48 Jeep, '53 Studebaker PU, Case VAO and B could be converted to 12v pretty easily. The Towmotor would take some $$$. No question 12v is better than 6v. It's just the time and cash to get them changed.

Know what you mean;)
With 10 vehicles, 8 tractors and the welder and log splitter I have learned to consolidate to common 12V batteries and do a lot of juggling:) Can't be using them all at once anyway.

Jack

Didn't know you had a 48 willy jeep. I have two of them. Both are restored and look factory fresh. CJ2A's

Al