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Push - pull hydraulics ?

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8 years 5 months ago #147295 by johan7
Hi everyone . Got this picture from a friend . This RD8 is equipped with a rather singular hydraulic system . One ram goes in while the other goes out . Question 1 : who was the maker of this system ? The name CARGO is on it , maybe that helps .

The push arms are so long I can"t clearly see the ends . It looks as the trunnions are beyond the tracks .
Question 2 : Who knows about this ? Thanks in advance . Johan7
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8 years 5 months ago #147296 by sdmuleman
Replied by sdmuleman on topic Push - pull hydraulics ?
Can't tell for sure, but I'd suspect that setup is because they're both single acting cylinder, hence you need one for lift and one to push the blade down. Single acting is easier because you don't need to have a gland that holds pressure, just piston seals. Or it could just be a way to get more force without going to a larger cylinder, but I'd think just going to a slightly larger cylinder would be easier than adding a 2nd complete cylinder.

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8 years 5 months ago #147297 by Old Magnet
Replied by Old Magnet on topic Push - pull hydraulics ?
I believe the manufacturer is "CARCO" of winch fame. Push arms actually attach to rear draw bar. No trunnions.

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8 years 5 months ago #147299 by Deas Plant.
Replied by Deas Plant. on topic Low pressure system.
Hi, Johan7.
It would be worth bearing in mind too that this would have been a low-pressure, high volume system, as were almost all hydraulics of that era. With the low pressure and the reduced piston surface area of the rod side of the piston, they did not have a lot of power on the 'In' stroke, hence the cylinder 'pushing ' for the blade lift.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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8 years 5 months ago #147300 by 68dually
Replied by 68dually on topic Push - pull hydraulics ?
Looks like he was cleaning up a logging job! That's my cup of tea!

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8 years 5 months ago #147302 by old-iron-habit
Whats really interesting is that the cylinders to push down are also smaller and of less mechanical advantage as the cylinders tht lift the blade. Makes sense as there is blade weight to help go down and more lift is required to lift and push as when grubbing stumps. Over all I find it a very interesting setup. It would be cool if there is still one around somewhere.

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8 years 5 months ago #147304 by Deas Plant.
Hi, O-I-H.
If there ain't one still around, why not "roll-yer-own"? All yer need is a 1H D8, some low pressure rams and a pump with the control valve, a pile of scrap iron and the appropriate cutting and welding gear. Might help to keep you from gallivanting all over the countryside for a while. LOL.

Just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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