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So the name of the game is removing the starter Off the CAT 955C. After taking the belly pan off and approximately 45 minutes later I got the starter on the 955 loose. However, my progress was halted due to a hydraulic pipe running beneath the starter and a injector pump above the starter leaving me no way to effectively get the old starter out. Any helpful suggestions gents?
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Mon, Jul 20, 2015 7:42 AM
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Sorry for the blurry photo but this is from the bottom of the cat looking up. As you can see the hydraulic pipe is right in the way of where I think the pump would need to come out
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Mon, Jul 20, 2015 7:45 AM
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Sorry for the blurry photo but this is from the bottom of the cat looking up. As you can see the hydraulic pipe is right in the way of where I think the pump would need to come out
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Don't know where all the 12A loader owners have gone!!!!.
Looks like your going to have to drain the hydraulic system and disconnect that supply line to get the starter out. I say disconnect ( and hopefully move it out of the way) as the other end seems to be trapped at the pump mounting as far as removal.
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Mon, Jul 20, 2015 11:50 PM
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Don't know where all the 12A loader owners have gone!!!!.
Looks like your going to have to drain the hydraulic system and disconnect that supply line to get the starter out. I say disconnect ( and hopefully move it out of the way) as the other end seems to be trapped at the pump mounting as far as removal.
The starter is out of the CAT thanks to a few heavy duty winches hooked up to the hydraulic pipe. I combed through the owners manual and there was nothing in there about taking out the starter. I think it's important to remember that all of us all started at square one. Any helpful tips and suggestions (and patience) are always appreciated. Everyone one this forum have been great. Thanks again gents!
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Tue, Jul 21, 2015 9:58 AM
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Don't know where all the 12A loader owners have gone!!!!.
Looks like your going to have to drain the hydraulic system and disconnect that supply line to get the starter out. I say disconnect ( and hopefully move it out of the way) as the other end seems to be trapped at the pump mounting as far as removal.
Hi Team,
all the ones I ever worked on had pony motor start--even the last of the new ones The Dealer sold in the early to mid 1960's at about the time I started as an Apprentice Mechanic there.
With the lift frame safely blocked/pinned in the up position I would have thought the starter would come out past the Gov. Hsg. as there would be vacant space if the pony clutch Hsg. etc is not there--unless the pony is still fitted of course.

If I recall there maybe a short section of hose with 2, 2 bolt flanges about under the starter that could be removed from the suction line assembly so only that hose or at least the front pipe part only would need to be removed/disconnected and swivelled about to get the starter out via the underneath.
Only other option is to remove the injection pump or at least maybe only the Governor housing to get the starter out--less messy than draining and removing the section of hydraulic pump suction line.

Seems they are your most likely two options short of dismantling the starter in there and IF the resultant parts will come out thru the available clearance.

Owning a Traxcavator is a life changing experience of how difficult things can be to work on--as you are finding--with all due respect sometimes you just need to "bite the bullet and get 'er done" there may be no real short cut for this job.
Cheers,
Eddie B.

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Hi Shawn,
you posted while I was researching--good job there getting it done with some ingenuity.
These Traxcavator's require a good deal of thinking outside the box "to get 'er done" Being remote from the iron it is often hard to recall what space is available to offer suitable suggestions--us old mechanics often need to eyeball the iron for the memory to be triggered for what we did back in the day.
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Tue, Jul 21, 2015 10:19 AM
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The starter is out of the CAT thanks to a few heavy duty winches hooked up to the hydraulic pipe. I combed through the owners manual and there was nothing in there about taking out the starter. I think it's important to remember that all of us all started at square one. Any helpful tips and suggestions (and patience) are always appreciated. Everyone one this forum have been great. Thanks again gents!
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I looked through the supplemental service information for the 955 (form 32225) and it did not have any info on starter removal. The one picture that was even close just showed the starter hole cover plate. Saw AJ's comments on Yesterday's Tractors site. Indicated starter would go up and out with the bucket raised and the belly pan side panel removed. Does that look feasible?
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Tue, Jul 21, 2015 10:26 AM
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I looked through the supplemental service information for the 955 (form 32225) and it did not have any info on starter removal. The one picture that was even close just showed the starter hole cover plate. Saw AJ's comments on Yesterday's Tractors site. Indicated starter would go up and out with the bucket raised and the belly pan side panel removed. Does that look feasible?


Cat must have had enough compliants that they changed things around the starter. I changed the starter in a 955K I once owned and it was a simple matter. With the loader secured in the up position and the side curtain and lower side panel on that side removed it was in the open and slid right out. I'm glad to hear it squeezed out of there.
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Tue, Jul 21, 2015 10:15 PM
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Cat must have had enough compliants that they changed things around the starter. I changed the starter in a 955K I once owned and it was a simple matter. With the loader secured in the up position and the side curtain and lower side panel on that side removed it was in the open and slid right out. I'm glad to hear it squeezed out of there.


Entirely different arrangement. Starter is on the opposite side of the engine and mounted much higher up on the D330's/3304's
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Tue, Jul 21, 2015 10:24 PM
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