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Putting Electric start on D25U pony motor

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Arthropod
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Had these parts for pony electric start laying around for years. Finally decided this morning I'd start installing on my 1955 D2.
Need a belt for the pony governor, so can't finish today. I had a belt laying around that happened to be the correct length for the starter belt location. Got a good start and hopefully tomorrow can find a belt for governor and finish up the install. Been enjoying tinkering today.
Had to swap the original oil filler part so that I could keep the correct carb tube and spacer. I think I might drop the starter at a shop and have it rewired for 12 volt. I figure it is currently 6 volt. I'm also going to have to fabricate a mount for the pony throttle and choke controls. I don't have the bracket that mounts onto the starter motor bracket. I either lost it in our move six years ago, or never had it. Can't remember.

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Tue, Dec 26, 2017 3:23 AM
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I wouldn't sweat the 6v starter on 12 volts. As long as you don't crank on it forever, trying to get a start up with no spark or gas :confused2:, it should last and be happy. If, for some reason it does let out the magic smoke at a later time, get it rebuilt. It probably won't happen in your life time.
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Tue, Dec 26, 2017 3:59 AM
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Reply to Norm R2,22:
I wouldn't sweat the 6v starter on 12 volts. As long as you don't crank on it forever, trying to get a start up with no spark or gas :confused2:, it should last and be happy. If, for some reason it does let out the magic smoke at a later time, get it rebuilt. It probably won't happen in your life time.
If you wait a few days, you can congratulate yourself on getting a project done early in the year !
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Tue, Dec 26, 2017 8:29 AM
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If you wait a few days, you can congratulate yourself on getting a project done early in the year !


Ha. As slow as I'm going I think I will get to celebrate this project in the new year. I seem to be more meticulous the older I get. I'm running a tap through all the threads and just taking my time. I think just enjoying the tinkering more. I'm going to weld up a pony controls bracket today. I have one of the standard brackets extra and going to use that and modify. While I have things pulled apart I'm going to adjust the steering brakes and the pinion kick out as well.
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Tue, Dec 26, 2017 7:13 PM
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Ha. As slow as I'm going I think I will get to celebrate this project in the new year. I seem to be more meticulous the older I get. I'm running a tap through all the threads and just taking my time. I think just enjoying the tinkering more. I'm going to weld up a pony controls bracket today. I have one of the standard brackets extra and going to use that and modify. While I have things pulled apart I'm going to adjust the steering brakes and the pinion kick out as well.
You do realize that Controls Bracket will show itself when you are putting all the extra parts away? :confused2:
Either way, Nice Job!
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Tue, Dec 26, 2017 8:08 PM
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You do realize that Controls Bracket will show itself when you are putting all the extra parts away? :confused2:
Either way, Nice Job!
try this guy for the bracket. I've gotten parts from him and he says he has the bracket. he specializes in D2s.


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Wed, Dec 27, 2017 4:37 AM
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try this guy for the bracket. I've gotten parts from him and he says he has the bracket. he specializes in D2s.


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See what happens when you have spare parts lying around and you get the bug to do an end of year clean-up..... Who knows where this will end.
I'm not afraid of hard work; I can lay down beside it anytime and take a nap.
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Wed, Dec 27, 2017 7:28 AM
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See what happens when you have spare parts lying around and you get the bug to do an end of year clean-up..... Who knows where this will end.
Well, I didn't finish the pony electric start until 2018. But it turned out nice. I did find the OEM bracket that holds the starter button and magneto switch. But I had to fabricate the pony throttle/choke bracket. Made the choke rod bending and threading a rod. Welded an extension on the throttle rod. In the process I repaired some cracks in the dash, adjusted the brakes, adjusted the pinion, replaced the governor belt, starter belt, new plug wires, fabricated the pony controls bracket and built a battery box. Still need to mount the battery box and then fabricate a lid for it. But the pony does start really nice using the electric starter, so basically done.

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Tue, Jan 16, 2018 4:29 AM
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Well, I didn't finish the pony electric start until 2018. But it turned out nice. I did find the OEM bracket that holds the starter button and magneto switch. But I had to fabricate the pony throttle/choke bracket. Made the choke rod bending and threading a rod. Welded an extension on the throttle rod. In the process I repaired some cracks in the dash, adjusted the brakes, adjusted the pinion, replaced the governor belt, starter belt, new plug wires, fabricated the pony controls bracket and built a battery box. Still need to mount the battery box and then fabricate a lid for it. But the pony does start really nice using the electric starter, so basically done.

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I was thinking of mounting my battery box back beside the armrest. I've seen some that are mounted right in the middle of the gap where I'd expect to gain entry to the operator's station and wondered if there was a good reason why.
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Tue, Jan 16, 2018 4:50 AM
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I was thinking of mounting my battery box back beside the armrest. I've seen some that are mounted right in the middle of the gap where I'd expect to gain entry to the operator's station and wondered if there was a good reason why.


I've had a few D2's that had the electric starter option. The battery box was always in the between spot. Maybe because on early D2's the toolbox is beside the seat. On my 1955 there is a tool box under the seat cushion, so beside the seat is open. But having the box in the middle doesn’t really obstruct entry. Typically I'm stepping up on the track and then stepping into the operator space. You'd have to run the battery cables so far if the battery is beside the seat. I did notice that this machine, the fender looks pre-drilled for a battery box right where I have it positioned.
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Tue, Jan 16, 2018 8:14 AM
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