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Hey guys, I'm fixing to build a strictly land clearing/brush dozer. It will have a rake blade put on it and with all the extra metal I need to make it sturdy. Iv been reasearching what dozers to use and what not. Iv fooled around with alot of D6,7,and 8s and figure a D7 would be perfect for raking a d the occasional KG work. Now I know everybody these days talks bad about a direct drive transmission, but from what I hear they Handle heat better on longer pushes and apply power better, and is a ccu a bad idea for raking? The type of land I clear isn't too hilly and I figure a cable would be just as good as hydro. I'm thinking of finding a D7 17A to customize. Iv got a D7E but it needs alot of work! I figure I can buy a decent 17A for what I'll have to put in the E. you guys tell me what y'all think, any advice is greatly appreciated!!👍
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 2:01 AM
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My uncle cleared thousands of acres with one and his son is still using it occasionally for clearing a deer food plot here and there. Like anything, even the new machines, be prepared to do some work to it as well as with it. I got to pull that D7 with his old 2U a few times when he got stuck in the swamps, and once in the early 70s we cut the trees off of it to get to the pony motor after a tornado dumped a pile of twisted up trees on it.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 2:17 AM
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My uncle cleared thousands of acres with one and his son is still using it occasionally for clearing a deer food plot here and there. Like anything, even the new machines, be prepared to do some work to it as well as with it. I got to pull that D7 with his old 2U a few times when he got stuck in the swamps, and once in the early 70s we cut the trees off of it to get to the pony motor after a tornado dumped a pile of twisted up trees on it.
The guys I work with hate anything cable or with a clutch lever. They would rather spend 24k on a D6C with a horrible bottom than a D7 17A for 10 that has nothing wrong with it. I'd also like to get a D8 14A to customize too. Folks down here charge 150 per hour for a D5 dozer, I figure since the machines are older i can still charge 95-120 and get 2x the work done, as long as I cover fuel and put 20% back into my machine I'll be happy
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 2:53 AM
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The guys I work with hate anything cable or with a clutch lever. They would rather spend 24k on a D6C with a horrible bottom than a D7 17A for 10 that has nothing wrong with it. I'd also like to get a D8 14A to customize too. Folks down here charge 150 per hour for a D5 dozer, I figure since the machines are older i can still charge 95-120 and get 2x the work done, as long as I cover fuel and put 20% back into my machine I'll be happy
If your just going to do your own work at your own pace or just play then a 17A is ok but when you go to taking stumps out the back and forth will kill your clutch arm after working all day. A power shift and hyd tractor is so much better. Ive been clearing with my 7E and was thinking how it would be with one of those new D7Es with the little forward reverse push button switch, lol , my thumb would probably get so sore from switching back and forth and then probably mess up trying to go backward or forward lol.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:16 AM
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If your just going to do your own work at your own pace or just play then a 17A is ok but when you go to taking stumps out the back and forth will kill your clutch arm after working all day. A power shift and hyd tractor is so much better. Ive been clearing with my 7E and was thinking how it would be with one of those new D7Es with the little forward reverse push button switch, lol , my thumb would probably get so sore from switching back and forth and then probably mess up trying to go backward or forward lol.
Yeah you got a point, but I can't afford something as nice as a power shift right now hahaha, now we got a nice D8R and D8N at work, them things will spoil you!!!
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:56 AM
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Yeah you got a point, but I can't afford something as nice as a power shift right now hahaha, now we got a nice D8R and D8N at work, them things will spoil you!!!
Whatever works for you then.
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:18 AM
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Whatever works for you then.
Dad always said the boys who grew up in the woods always arm wrestled with their left hands hahaha!
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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:28 AM
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Dad always said the boys who grew up in the woods always arm wrestled with their left hands hahaha!
Hi, Cat boy.
I think the 17A D7 will do you just fine, assuming that it is in reasonable condition to start with. A CCU is also quite adequate for handling a dozer or a rake. God knows, there was a WHOLE LOT of clearing done with cable 'dozers BEFORE hydraulics got to be popular. The only thing that I would suggest is that you make the centre section of the rake, immediately in front of the radiator and maybe a little to each side, filled in with solid plate and somewhat higher than the rest of the rake, even up to the top of the radiator. This is to help prevent stray sticks - and even logs - getting at your radiator 'cos you just plain cain't see that area in front of the radiator.

I seriously doubt that you will do 2x the work of a D5 with a 17A D7. Depending on the model of D5 - D5B f'rinstance - it will be around the same horsepower as the 17A D7 and quite a bit more mobile but it could also be 2 or 3 tons lighter. I would not be surprised though if you could not even keep up with a D5B 'dozer in the same work, let alone outwork it by 2x.

This may sound a bit silly to some - and I don't care about that - but if you are working a rake that is quite wide, a tilt cylinder can be a very useful gadget to have as it allows you to follow the ground contours a lot better.

Happy raking.

just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:58 PM
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