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wendell f. stegner
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Have any of you had this happen or have witnessed???

While helping an uncle load his D-4 to move it to different farm Saturday, things came apart. Low and behold, engine housing bolts had been broke for some time. Glad no one was changing oil.

Some replacement parts will be needed.

What's the year on this one? 4G8866. We think 1936.

Wendell Stegner
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 1:43 AM
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Ouch, that hurts!!
1962 D4C
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 2:00 AM
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4G8858-4G9999 = 1938 per ACMOC Serial Number Referance Manual

Novel way to gain access to pony pinion.

Had machine received a fairly hard (rough) life?

Daron
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 2:04 AM
wendell f. stegner
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4G8858-4G9999 = 1938 per ACMOC Serial Number Referance Manual

Novel way to gain access to pony pinion.

Had machine received a fairly hard (rough) life?

Daron
I know only some of the history. In the first pic. I'm the smart A acting like I'm gonna pick up the front end. The gentleman that is next is Don Daughtery of Holden, MO, this was his father-in-laws (a Logger) at one time, passed away a year ago, but did not buy it new. Third from right is Gordon Stegner who is current owner. Lastly, my daddy, Wes Stegner who was in the drivers set when things came apart.

We're thinking at one time someone may have just torqued the bolting too tight?:noidea:

It was a runner, with great underside.

Wendell
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 4:33 AM
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I know only some of the history. In the first pic. I'm the smart A acting like I'm gonna pick up the front end. The gentleman that is next is Don Daughtery of Holden, MO, this was his father-in-laws (a Logger) at one time, passed away a year ago, but did not buy it new. Third from right is Gordon Stegner who is current owner. Lastly, my daddy, Wes Stegner who was in the drivers set when things came apart.

We're thinking at one time someone may have just torqued the bolting too tight?:noidea:

It was a runner, with great underside.

Wendell
Ouch!

Lick the rear did not have a winch otherwise it may have gone up and over the back end.

Interestingly my D4 30 (7U) when pulled apart had quite a few bolts up around the top of the tranny missing - especially those ones under the pony which are a bit hard to get at. Some of mine were also stripped out and one or two sheared off. Wear and tear and operator misuse/lazyness over time I guess.

At least no one was hurt😊
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 5:39 AM
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Ouch!

Lick the rear did not have a winch otherwise it may have gone up and over the back end.

Interestingly my D4 30 (7U) when pulled apart had quite a few bolts up around the top of the tranny missing - especially those ones under the pony which are a bit hard to get at. Some of mine were also stripped out and one or two sheared off. Wear and tear and operator misuse/lazyness over time I guess.

At least no one was hurt😊
Glad no-one was hurt Wendell. Doesn't look like you need a lot of new parts, and since you have it open : ), you could replace the clutch plate, pilot bearing, and check that the pony pinion is in good shape - golden opportunity.
Do you know how many bolts remained holding the engine on? Looks like none of them across the top, which of course would have been the critical ones most of the time.
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Neil
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 6:12 AM
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Glad no-one was hurt Wendell. Doesn't look like you need a lot of new parts, and since you have it open : ), you could replace the clutch plate, pilot bearing, and check that the pony pinion is in good shape - golden opportunity.
Do you know how many bolts remained holding the engine on? Looks like none of them across the top, which of course would have been the critical ones most of the time.
Cheers,
Neil
I wonder what that spacer plate is between the flywheel housing and transmission case, I've never seen anything like it on a 7J or a 2T series, or a later D4, is it something added or is it original on the 4G? The failure could be something to do with the original bolts being used with the added spacer?
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Tue, Oct 22, 2013 7:30 PM
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I wonder what that spacer plate is between the flywheel housing and transmission case, I've never seen anything like it on a 7J or a 2T series, or a later D4, is it something added or is it original on the 4G? The failure could be something to do with the original bolts being used with the added spacer?
Hi catsilver,
That's a new one on me to.....no such item called out in the 4Gxxxx parts manuals.
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Wed, Oct 23, 2013 12:54 AM
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