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Draining a D4 7U for the winter.

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Norm R2,22
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I've drained the coolant (water) by opening the valve at the bottom right side of the radiator. Does that drain the whole machine including the pony? I don't see anything other than the cylinder drain cocks on the pony and nothing on the sides of the main engine. Am I missing something or did I get it all?😕
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Sun, Dec 6, 2015 10:52 AM
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It's been a while since I have drained out a 7U, there is a plug to remove on the left side of the diesel engine block close to the injector pump area. It is by itself on the side of the block.
D-4 7U-43159 with 4S dozer and Cat 40 scraper, D-7 3T-1179 with Cat 7S hydraulic dozer, D-7 17A 13,944, D-8 14A-1160 with Cat 8S cable dozer, Cat 12-99E-4433 Grader. All runners and users.
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Sun, Dec 6, 2015 11:11 AM
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It's been a while since I have drained out a 7U, there is a plug to remove on the left side of the diesel engine block close to the injector pump area. It is by itself on the side of the block.
The got ya on these and the d2 can be sludge and gunge blocks the water narrow passage under the pony so some water stays in it causing frost damage , if there is any doubt I would pull the pony heads and if there is gunk poke some wire thru it and then flush by filling the radiator....
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Sun, Dec 6, 2015 1:56 PM
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The got ya on these and the d2 can be sludge and gunge blocks the water narrow passage under the pony so some water stays in it causing frost damage , if there is any doubt I would pull the pony heads and if there is gunk poke some wire thru it and then flush by filling the radiator....
I am a firm believer in keeping the cooling system full with an antifreeze mixture to eliminate freezing and also to prevent oxidation and corrosion of the system
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Sun, Dec 6, 2015 8:30 PM
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I am a firm believer in keeping the cooling system full with an antifreeze mixture to eliminate freezing and also to prevent oxidation and corrosion of the system


Absolutely! Expensive the first time but I never change it regardless of the manufacturers advice. Just add additive every Fall.
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Sun, Dec 6, 2015 10:11 PM
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Absolutely! Expensive the first time but I never change it regardless of the manufacturers advice. Just add additive every Fall.
Here are pictures from Operator and Maintenance Instructions, form 12244-7.

There is a vent on the top of the starting engine that needs to be open when refilling to insure that water jacket on the starting engine is filled.




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Mon, Dec 7, 2015 12:08 AM
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Here are pictures from Operator and Maintenance Instructions, form 12244-7.

There is a vent on the top of the starting engine that needs to be open when refilling to insure that water jacket on the starting engine is filled.




I completely missed the block drain. I was looking for a valve or something that looked like one. I thought that "bolt" held something in the engine. With the water pump leaking, I didn't want to put 50/50 in the radiator and have it leak out. I suppose I could fill it, run it, and drain it into a container to be returned when the water pump is fixed. Or pour straight anti-freeze into the vent on top of the pony. I have a manual #104 and a parts book UEO32523, but none of them showed the location of the drain. I guess I'll have to get 12244-7 to get the full picture. Thanks for the information.
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Mon, Dec 7, 2015 12:32 AM
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I completely missed the block drain. I was looking for a valve or something that looked like one. I thought that "bolt" held something in the engine. With the water pump leaking, I didn't want to put 50/50 in the radiator and have it leak out. I suppose I could fill it, run it, and drain it into a container to be returned when the water pump is fixed. Or pour straight anti-freeze into the vent on top of the pony. I have a manual #104 and a parts book UEO32523, but none of them showed the location of the drain. I guess I'll have to get 12244-7 to get the full picture. Thanks for the information.
I got many gallons of used antifreeze from my auto mechanic for free as he always had to pay to get rid of it.Try some mechanics in your area and Pour that in the block and if it leaks out no loss! I filled my tractor tires for free that way.
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Mon, Dec 7, 2015 5:07 AM
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I got many gallons of used antifreeze from my auto mechanic for free as he always had to pay to get rid of it.Try some mechanics in your area and Pour that in the block and if it leaks out no loss! I filled my tractor tires for free that way.
I'll give it a shot. There has got to be some around that they want to get rid of. Thanks for the idea.
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Mon, Dec 7, 2015 6:24 AM
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I got many gallons of used antifreeze from my auto mechanic for free as he always had to pay to get rid of it.Try some mechanics in your area and Pour that in the block and if it leaks out no loss! I filled my tractor tires for free that way.


That is a great idea, recycling !
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Mon, Dec 7, 2015 7:28 AM
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That is a great idea, recycling !
I have known liner O-rings to fail after sitting dry. always keep antifreeze in a wet liner engine!
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