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DrewAbt
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I got a leak that has gotten worse on the outside of sprocket. It seems to be coming out from around the big adjustment nut. I found some play in the sprocket...it's definitely a little loose. Is it more likely a bearing issue or just a loose bearing? What is the procedure to tighten this and has anybody had any luck getting this to stop a leak or is the seal shot by now?
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Also what's wrong with the inside sprocket...it seems to look a little weird
Not sure what's up with the double pics
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Mon, Aug 28, 2017 6:37 PM
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drive the machine onto a block of wood to take all pressure off of the sprocket. remove the rear dirt guard and look on the top of the adjustment nut for the small rectangular key with a bolt in it. remove the bolt and then remove the key and with a pry bar in one of the notches in the adjustment nut turn the nut counterclockwise until tight. drive the dozer back and forth a few times and repeat. remember counterclockwise. i would also change the final drive oil and flush looking for metal in the oil. adjust the other side too.:tape:
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Mon, Aug 28, 2017 8:02 PM
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drive the machine onto a block of wood to take all pressure off of the sprocket. remove the rear dirt guard and look on the top of the adjustment nut for the small rectangular key with a bolt in it. remove the bolt and then remove the key and with a pry bar in one of the notches in the adjustment nut turn the nut counterclockwise until tight. drive the dozer back and forth a few times and repeat. remember counterclockwise. i would also change the final drive oil and flush looking for metal in the oil. adjust the other side too.:tape:
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not sure of your serial number. here is a link to operators manual that should explain with pictures. if this isn't for your tractor just keep looking on that site until you find the correct manual.
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Mon, Aug 28, 2017 8:16 PM
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https://catpublications.com/Products/ProductSearch.aspx?terms=&pt=MANUALS%20-%20OPERATION%20&%20MAINTENANCE

not sure of your serial number. here is a link to operators manual that should explain with pictures. if this isn't for your tractor just keep looking on that site until you find the correct manual.
Has anybody had any luck stopping the leak by tightening the nut or is the seal usually too far gone?
I think the SN is 75 E3. It's the third in the military numbers I know.
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Mon, Aug 28, 2017 8:36 PM
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Has anybody had any luck stopping the leak by tightening the nut or is the seal usually too far gone?
I think the SN is 75 E3. It's the third in the military numbers I know.
Early 75E's are the same as 48A6393 to 6882.
Chances of recovering the sealing are kind of slim and running loose sprocket bearings for long periods of time will take its toll on bearings. Tighten things up and hope for the best.
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Mon, Aug 28, 2017 9:46 PM
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Early 75E's are the same as 48A6393 to 6882.
Chances of recovering the sealing are kind of slim and running loose sprocket bearings for long periods of time will take its toll on bearings. Tighten things up and hope for the best.
You might not be able to tighten the nut with a pry bar, the best tool is a big adjustable C spanner, It could work but if the sprocket has up and down movement, the bearings are probably worn out. The damage behind the sprocket is the seal dirt guards worn away, see what tightening does but I reckon a big repair is on the way.
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Mon, Aug 28, 2017 11:00 PM
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Has anybody had any luck stopping the leak by tightening the nut or is the seal usually too far gone?
I think the SN is 75 E3. It's the third in the military numbers I know.
[quote="DrewAbt"]Has anybody had any luck stopping the leak by tightening the nut or is the seal usually too far gone?
I think the SN is 75 E3. It's the third in the military numbers I know.[/quote]


I was able to solve a very small leak."just an occasional drip" on a D4 by tightening two notches.
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Tue, Aug 29, 2017 12:08 AM
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[quote="DrewAbt"]Has anybody had any luck stopping the leak by tightening the nut or is the seal usually too far gone?
I think the SN is 75 E3. It's the third in the military numbers I know.[/quote]


I was able to solve a very small leak."just an occasional drip" on a D4 by tightening two notches.
So if I tighten the bearing how do I tell if the hub was loose and not damaged. Will it not snug up if the bearing is gone or going out?
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Tue, Aug 29, 2017 12:54 AM
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So if I tighten the bearing how do I tell if the hub was loose and not damaged. Will it not snug up if the bearing is gone or going out?



can't hurt to try. or if you want you can pull it down and rebuild now or just run it to destruction. if you decide to try and adjust and want a little better idea of what is going on inside you can flush the final with some diesel and look for metal shavings. or get a borescope to look inside.
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Tue, Aug 29, 2017 1:05 AM
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can't hurt to try. or if you want you can pull it down and rebuild now or just run it to destruction. if you decide to try and adjust and want a little better idea of what is going on inside you can flush the final with some diesel and look for metal shavings. or get a borescope to look inside.


So I'm a little confused....if the inner seal is good and not leaking then I would only need to rebuild the outer bearing and leave the sprocket and final drive gearbox alone? Or does the whole thing need to come apart?
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Tue, Aug 29, 2017 3:23 AM
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So I'm a little confused....if the inner seal is good and not leaking then I would only need to rebuild the outer bearing and leave the sprocket and final drive gearbox alone? Or does the whole thing need to come apart?
there is only one seal. sometimes if the sproket hub is loose some oil will flow down the splines and leak on the outer of the sproket. yours is leaking from the seal i think. if it were mine i would try to adjust and see how many turns or notches it takes to tighten things up, then i would reassemble and flush the final and look for metal shavings. if i didn't find any shavings and the adjustment was just a notch or two i would run it and just keep the final full and change it a little more often. if i found metal shavings i would take photos and post them here to see what others think. i use a rail road bar that is about 1.5 inches in diameter and 5 feet long to turn the nut one notch at a time.
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