Reply to bjohnson:
[quote="Old Magnet"]Running the lower voltage raises the amperage through switches, wires and contacts. You will need to run 24v if you expect to install glow plugs.
I thought Cat had a pretty good design and reason for the 24v system.
Would agree a pair of 8D's is overkill for the 17A, same set up used to start D9's. A pair of 4D's would probably be about right.[/quote]
The D7 17A I worked on has the 24 volt starter.The owner is a tight wad so we have two regular 12 volt in series I think thats right any way to make 24 volts..Use the decompression lever and she fires up.Cold weather I use just a little either.When she warms up it will crank without the decompression being used.See the wooden box?Guess what it is.
One unusual approach used by a guy I've done some work for is to use a 12V starter in a 24V system-you have to be a little careful & not crank & crank for long periods of time, but if you want to really twist her tail, this will do it-he's done this with several machines, a Galion grader w/a Cummins, & a JD loader...he has a later D7, I don't know if he's done this w/it or not...the engine literally has to slow down to idle when it starts...cranking speed is one secret for starting a Diesel, you gotta spin her over to build compression & heat, & this will do it, if you need to start in cold weather...doesn't seem to negatively affect starter life too much, if the engine's good & fires right up...
Actually, a modern 12V starter will match a 24V in cranking power, 24V has pretty much had its day...
You do see some weird stuff, one of my feedlot customers had a 644B JD loader that was a hard-cranking SOB, the 531 engine would just barely start at best, he had to keep it plugged in pretty much all year. He replaced batteries, cables, we ran a ground cable back to the starter rather then the ground in the cab, nothing would make it any better-the frickin starter just sounded draggy...so, as I was pulling it off to take to the starter hospital, I noticed on the back side of the solenoid, it said...24V!!! Turns out JD offered either system on those loaders, & some previous owner had assumed it was 24 when he replaced the starter...well, it wasn't-it was a 12V system...so yeah, a 24V starter will work-marginally-w/only 12V to it...