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D69U slobbering oil from stack

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I have a friend that just bought a D69U first year with a wet clutch. He was doing some light work on his property when he heard a clunk sound and the engine started to smoke. He shut down and checked the engine. could find nothing so he restarted and engine ran fine with no noises. But now it is blowing some oil out the stack. Im not familiar with these machines but would like some suggestions as to what he should look for. Thanks for any help. Jim.
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Fri, Jan 24, 2014 2:59 AM
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Piston lost a chunk? Some of the older versions on the pistons were susceptable to fatigue and could loose part of the top of the piston, sometimes with a dramatic shower of hot debris if the engine had a straight pipe instead of a muffler.

On the other hand, lots of them slobber a mixture of unburned diesel and carbon (looks like motor oil) when they are not working hard and are not up to proper temperature.

In this case, with a sudden onset after a known "event", I would start by idling the engine and loosening each injector line in turn. Hold a rag over it to knock down the fuel spray, but listen to the engine to see if each one affects the sound and rpm of the engine equally. This may point to a specific cylinder as the problem. You are looking for the ones that don't affect the idle much or at all. You can also get some good info by "shooting" each exhaust manifold runner with an infrared thermometer after working the engine a little while, looking for a cool one.

Once you ID the problems, then I would start by checking injectors or swapping from a good cylinder to a bad one and from the bad one to the good one to determine if the problem stays with the cylinder or moves with the injector. Problems that stay with a certain cylinder include injection pump problems as well as piston and piston, ring and sleeve problems. It might be possible to remove the precombustion chamber and put a scope into the cylinder and examine the top of the piston.

Another quick diagnostic step is to remove the exhaust manifold and examine the inside of the ports for oil etc.
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Fri, Jan 24, 2014 8:20 AM
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Piston lost a chunk? Some of the older versions on the pistons were susceptable to fatigue and could loose part of the top of the piston, sometimes with a dramatic shower of hot debris if the engine had a straight pipe instead of a muffler.

On the other hand, lots of them slobber a mixture of unburned diesel and carbon (looks like motor oil) when they are not working hard and are not up to proper temperature.

In this case, with a sudden onset after a known "event", I would start by idling the engine and loosening each injector line in turn. Hold a rag over it to knock down the fuel spray, but listen to the engine to see if each one affects the sound and rpm of the engine equally. This may point to a specific cylinder as the problem. You are looking for the ones that don't affect the idle much or at all. You can also get some good info by "shooting" each exhaust manifold runner with an infrared thermometer after working the engine a little while, looking for a cool one.

Once you ID the problems, then I would start by checking injectors or swapping from a good cylinder to a bad one and from the bad one to the good one to determine if the problem stays with the cylinder or moves with the injector. Problems that stay with a certain cylinder include injection pump problems as well as piston and piston, ring and sleeve problems. It might be possible to remove the precombustion chamber and put a scope into the cylinder and examine the top of the piston.

Another quick diagnostic step is to remove the exhaust manifold and examine the inside of the ports for oil etc.
CCJersey, Thanks for the tips on diagnosis. I will pass on to owner and see what he finds out. Not sure on hrs of this machine or how hard it has been operated in the past. Jim.
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Sat, Jan 25, 2014 12:28 AM
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CCJersey, Thanks for the tips on diagnosis. I will pass on to owner and see what he finds out. Not sure on hrs of this machine or how hard it has been operated in the past. Jim.
Hey Jim,

I can not comment on noises that someone heard, or if it is effecting the motor, but I have a D6-9u that will slobber along with some other bigger Cats I own too. On my 9u, if it is let to idle for an extended period or run at low rpm's, it slobbers oil out of the stack. When this happens, I simply run it hard working at full throttle and the slobbering stops.-glen
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Sat, Jan 25, 2014 10:41 AM
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Hey Jim,

I can not comment on noises that someone heard, or if it is effecting the motor, but I have a D6-9u that will slobber along with some other bigger Cats I own too. On my 9u, if it is let to idle for an extended period or run at low rpm's, it slobbers oil out of the stack. When this happens, I simply run it hard working at full throttle and the slobbering stops.-glen
[quote="7upuller"]Hey Jim,

I can not comment on noises that someone heard, or if it is effecting the motor, but I have a D6-9u that will slobber along with some other bigger Cats I own too. On my 9u, if it is let to idle for an extended period or run at low rpm's, it slobbers oil out of the stack. When this happens, I simply run it hard working at full throttle and the slobbering stops.-glen[/quote]

Glen, Thanks for the info. That was the first thing I told him was to take it out and run it hard. Then he mentioned the clunk noise in the engine. I dont want to do any further damage so will tell him to check the cylinders to see if he has a weak one. If they check out good, then maybe a little exercise is all it needs. Jim.
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