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G'day All.
Have a question about my D2 as I am not able to determine if my 5U-17494 has an oil clutch or not. Have searched previous threads and seems later models had oil in the clutch housing...? Mine has none, no oil that is, and the drain plug is missing....hmm.

I'm in the process of trying to get the clutch cover off due to 3 broken capscrews, snapped off which I will endeavor to rectify.

A major problem at the present is that I cant "drive" down the clutch actuator shaft to clear the cover for removal (as is the description in my D4 manual ..all I have). Have lossened the bolt in the shaft/casting and beating the top of the shaft to death with no progress and am reluctant to do any damage.
According to Cat, the shaft should drop down and punch out the plug in the bottom of the crankcase. This is not happening and I think the shaft is rusted into the cast that holds it in pos'n. Will soak it with WD40 or other for a day or so and give it a serious thrashing.

So I will buy a drain plug for the clutch housing and then how much should I put in there if indeed any at all ? I did read 14 quarts ! Sounds like a lot to me. My Operators D2 manual says nothing ! Bewildering.

I am sure my West Coast "brother" , Ozdozer and you other learned gents has the answer.
I'm new at this so I do appreciate your help and patience.

Regards,
OzCat, Horsham, Australia 😕
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Sun, May 10, 2009 5:46 PM
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OzCat - It's highly unlikely that your tractor has an oil main clutch. You can ID the oil main clutch by the following features ..

1. It has a dipstick, that sticks up through the floorplate ..
2. It has a double gearset oil pump, externally bolted on, high up on the RH side of the clutch housing ..
3. It has a suction strainer for the oil pump, bolted to the bottom of the clutch housing by six bolts ..

Your tractor is a very late D2, being built around mid-1956. The D2 oil main clutch became available as an option or "attachment" in Cat parlance, during early 1956.
Cat offered a "field changeover" oil main clutch that could be retrofitted to D2's back to 5U16128.
I understand that very few D2's were actually fitted with the oil main clutch .. a figure of only around 800 D2's, I seem to recall.
Your tractor may have been one of the rare approximately 800 tractors fitted with the oil clutch, but I think it's unlikely.
If your tractor has been running around with no plug in the clutch housing, and it was an oil clutch, it wouldn't have lasted very long.
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Sun, May 10, 2009 6:18 PM
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Reply to OzDozer:
OzCat - It's highly unlikely that your tractor has an oil main clutch. You can ID the oil main clutch by the following features ..

1. It has a dipstick, that sticks up through the floorplate ..
2. It has a double gearset oil pump, externally bolted on, high up on the RH side of the clutch housing ..
3. It has a suction strainer for the oil pump, bolted to the bottom of the clutch housing by six bolts ..

Your tractor is a very late D2, being built around mid-1956. The D2 oil main clutch became available as an option or "attachment" in Cat parlance, during early 1956.
Cat offered a "field changeover" oil main clutch that could be retrofitted to D2's back to 5U16128.
I understand that very few D2's were actually fitted with the oil main clutch .. a figure of only around 800 D2's, I seem to recall.
Your tractor may have been one of the rare approximately 800 tractors fitted with the oil clutch, but I think it's unlikely.
If your tractor has been running around with no plug in the clutch housing, and it was an oil clutch, it wouldn't have lasted very long.
The dipstick for the oil clutch would be towards the rear of the shaft you're trying to drive down. You said the drain plug is out, if you can see up into that hole and see a screen, it's an oil clutch. If there's no dipstick or no screen, then it's not an oil clutch.
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Sun, May 10, 2009 7:51 PM
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The dipstick for the oil clutch would be towards the rear of the shaft you're trying to drive down. You said the drain plug is out, if you can see up into that hole and see a screen, it's an oil clutch. If there's no dipstick or no screen, then it's not an oil clutch.
The procedure for pulling the clutch cover is different for the oil clutch and dry clutch, if it is an oil clutch, the clutch lever shaft is driven down a little after loosening the control shaft lever that is down in the clutch compartment. if it is a dry clutch the clutch, the clutch control shaft assembly, comes up and out with the cover, after loosening the the clutch yoke, on the shaft down in the clutch compartment. if you post a picture, with the clutch inspection cover off, we can tell for sure and post the proper instructions for that clutch.
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Sun, May 10, 2009 9:57 PM
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The procedure for pulling the clutch cover is different for the oil clutch and dry clutch, if it is an oil clutch, the clutch lever shaft is driven down a little after loosening the control shaft lever that is down in the clutch compartment. if it is a dry clutch the clutch, the clutch control shaft assembly, comes up and out with the cover, after loosening the the clutch yoke, on the shaft down in the clutch compartment. if you post a picture, with the clutch inspection cover off, we can tell for sure and post the proper instructions for that clutch.
Thankyou for your help gentlemen. As you all hinted, it is a dry clutch and I ended up removing the pulley from the pony and taking the clutch cover off which revealed all, a dry clutch, much to my relief. The lack of a drain plug had me concerned but all is well in there and one of the few areas of the Tractor that is in good condition.Apart from 2 broken studs/capscrews on the cover which I repaired/replaced yesterday.
Much thanks to all. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
OzCat 😊
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Tue, May 12, 2009 7:12 AM
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