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D 4 7 U rope start pony question

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d4angelo
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When I pull the rope to start my D4, the rope stops mid turn and almost separates my shoulder. This will happen 3 or 4 times in a row and then it won't happen on the next pull. What is causing this? The pony runs great, minor end play in the crank, no blue smoke when running and does not miss a beat. It can sit for 6 months, then start after only a few pulls of the rope. Any ideas?
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Tue, Aug 27, 2024 11:05 PM
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Timing slightly off or too much gas laying in the cylinders causing a hydro lock.
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Tue, Aug 27, 2024 11:26 PM
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Timing slightly off or too much gas laying in the cylinders causing a hydro lock.
Thanks side-seat, I ALWAYS drain the heads before pulling the rope. Only a couple of drops of oil drain out, no fuel.
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Wed, Aug 28, 2024 2:29 AM
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Thanks side-seat, I ALWAYS drain the heads before pulling the rope. Only a couple of drops of oil drain out, no fuel.
Does it feel like it's backfiring Angelo? Or does it feel like it just runs into a block and stops dead?
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Wed, Aug 28, 2024 3:44 AM
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Does it feel like it's backfiring Angelo? Or does it feel like it just runs into a block and stops dead?
There is no backfire or miss at all. Purrs like a kitten when running. It just stops dead.  After it stops dead, I can easily rotate the flywheel by hand. It does not feel like anything is binding at all.
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Wed, Aug 28, 2024 4:50 AM
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Reply to d4angelo:
There is no backfire or miss at all. Purrs like a kitten when running. It just stops dead.  After it stops dead, I can easily rotate the flywheel by hand. It does not feel like anything is binding at all.
You might have a bad gear or tooth on your pony or magneto. I have seen some with a bit of debris that clung to a tooth and would cause that on occasion.
You need to upgrade to the Italian Stallion starter, powered by hops, but I have heard "it" is worn out now. JM
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Wed, Aug 28, 2024 9:24 PM
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Reply to juiceman:
You might have a bad gear or tooth on your pony or magneto. I have seen some with a bit of debris that clung to a tooth and would cause that on occasion.
You need to upgrade to the Italian Stallion starter, powered by hops, but I have heard "it" is worn out now. JM
I believe there have been threads on the mag shaft braking on D4's on here. If I am remembering correctly the thrust bearing is letting the shaft walk back and forth. At some point the gear locks against the case. Mag shaft is the weak link that brakes. This might not be your problem, but it could be. So check the play in the crankshaft.
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Wed, Aug 28, 2024 10:47 PM
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I believe there have been threads on the mag shaft braking on D4's on here. If I am remembering correctly the thrust bearing is letting the shaft walk back and forth. At some point the gear locks against the case. Mag shaft is the weak link that brakes. This might not be your problem, but it could be. So check the play in the crankshaft.
Juiceman, the "Italian Stallion" is worn out because of his after work activities.
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Wed, Aug 28, 2024 11:22 PM
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