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Correct Mag for Cat 22?

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lrolla
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In the Cat 22 operators manual they state that there were two different mags used on the 22. Both of them were manufactured by Eisemann. My 22 has a Wico Mag XHD2700. Is this not the original mag for a 1937 Cat 22? I'm wondering if the operators manual is an older version and incorrect when you look at the total history of the 22s.

Also wondering how to position the rotor on this mag. It looks as if the rotor can go in any position on the shaft. (see pictures) [attachment=13509]photo(1).JPG[/attachment][attachment=13510]photo.JPG[/attachment]I've read up on setting the #1 cylinder with the marks on the flywheel but what about the mag alignment. Do I make sure the rotor is positioned over the top of the #1 plug?

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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:32 AM
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Here is what I have:
The original Eisemann magneto for the 22 was either a CM-4 or GV-4 model.
The American Bosch replacement would be a MJB4A102.
The Wico replacement would be a XH184.

The XHD2700 application is for a 40, 50, 60, 65, 70 & 10 Ton models.
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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 11:47 AM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
Here is what I have:
The original Eisemann magneto for the 22 was either a CM-4 or GV-4 model.
The American Bosch replacement would be a MJB4A102.
The Wico replacement would be a XH184.

The XHD2700 application is for a 40, 50, 60, 65, 70 & 10 Ton models.
[quote="Old Magnet"]Here is what I have:
The original Eisemann magneto for the 22 was either a CM-4 or GV-4 model.
The American Bosch replacement would be a MJB4A102.
The Wico replacement would be a XH184.

The XHD2700 application is for a 40, 50, 60, 65, 70 & 10 Ton models.[/quote]

Thanks OM,

I'm going to buy a replacement mag for this Cat. Would you recommend going back to the Eisemann? Not sure what the difference is between the Wico XHD2700 and the CM-4 or GV-4 and if it would be best to go back to the original.
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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 12:53 PM
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Reply to lrolla:
[quote="Old Magnet"]Here is what I have:
The original Eisemann magneto for the 22 was either a CM-4 or GV-4 model.
The American Bosch replacement would be a MJB4A102.
The Wico replacement would be a XH184.

The XHD2700 application is for a 40, 50, 60, 65, 70 & 10 Ton models.[/quote]

Thanks OM,

I'm going to buy a replacement mag for this Cat. Would you recommend going back to the Eisemann? Not sure what the difference is between the Wico XHD2700 and the CM-4 or GV-4 and if it would be best to go back to the original.
Early Twenty Two's used the Eisemann CT4 later machines used the CM4.

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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 3:46 PM
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Reply to shovel man:
Early Twenty Two's used the Eisemann CT4 later machines used the CM4.

shovel man.
The CM-4 is for sure, the GV-4 is also listed (by others). Don't know about the CT-4 so some additional verification would be helpful.
Here is what they look like....if I got it right. I don't mess with the gas stuff enough to be an authority here.
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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:38 PM
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Hello .the 22 used the ct4 on the early 22 and the cm4 on the later 22 .the gv4 was used on the 10 and 15 plus other early gas cats but it can be used on the 22 .other brands of mags are cheaper and easier to find .it up to you if you want to use the original model mag or if you want to use the one you have.
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Sun, Jun 24, 2012 10:43 PM
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Reply to bruce oz:
Hello .the 22 used the ct4 on the early 22 and the cm4 on the later 22 .the gv4 was used on the 10 and 15 plus other early gas cats but it can be used on the 22 .other brands of mags are cheaper and easier to find .it up to you if you want to use the original model mag or if you want to use the one you have.
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I will show you the original mag for the 22 when you come to get the spark plug cover. If you want to keep the eismann I will show you how to time it. - Wally
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Mon, Jun 25, 2012 1:07 AM
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I will show you the original mag for the 22 when you come to get the spark plug cover. If you want to keep the eismann I will show you how to time it. - Wally
[quote="brewzer"]Irolla
I will show you the original mag for the 22 when you come to get the spark plug cover. If you want to keep the eismann I will show you how to time it. - Wally[/quote]

Thanks Wally. Headed back to the Bay Area tonight. Will give you a call tomorrow.

Larry
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Mon, Jun 25, 2012 5:03 AM
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[quote="brewzer"]Irolla
I will show you the original mag for the 22 when you come to get the spark plug cover. If you want to keep the eismann I will show you how to time it. - Wally[/quote]

Thanks Wally. Headed back to the Bay Area tonight. Will give you a call tomorrow.

Larry
Larry, et al. I have a Prestolite Mag on my 22. It is probably a replacement that my brother-in-law found in his collection of old tractors and parts. Not sure what it came from. [attachment=13511]DSC_0047.jpg[/attachment]Fits fine, see photo. Ray
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