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Can anyone help me with the master pins on my D2 5U

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Markds3
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I've got my 1950 D2 5U home ready to strip the back end down to replace the steering clutch packs, thrust bearings and bevel gear shaft bearings. However, I am trying to identify what type of Master pin I have. Both sides have a hole drilled in a short distance (the hole on the inside is slightly larger than the outside), but the holes aren't threaded, and I can't see any evidence of the end of a tapered plug. Can any help me with the type of master pin I have and the correct procedure to remove them?
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Sat, Oct 15, 2022 11:40 AM
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Hello Markds3
I may be wrong as I have never worked on a D2 but if you are only working on the clutches and the bevel gear then you shouldn't need to break the tracks.

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Phil
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Sat, Oct 15, 2022 1:59 PM
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Reply to PhilC:
Hello Markds3
I may be wrong as I have never worked on a D2 but if you are only working on the clutches and the bevel gear then you shouldn't need to break the tracks.

Regards

Phil
https://www.acmoc.org/bb/discussion-d72/20795-d2-5u13753-master-pins-please-check-my-understanding?start=0
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Reply to bruce oz:
https://www.acmoc.org/bb/discussion-d72/20795-d2-5u13753-master-pins-please-check-my-understanding?start=0
you have the pin with the large and small plug, you drive the small plug in and drive right through to drive the large lug out.

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Sat, Oct 15, 2022 2:28 PM
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Reply to PhilC:
Hello Markds3
I may be wrong as I have never worked on a D2 but if you are only working on the clutches and the bevel gear then you shouldn't need to break the tracks.

Regards

Phil
[quote="PhilC post=241314 userid=11059"]Hello Markds3
I may be wrong as I have never worked on a D2 but if you are only working on the clutches and the bevel gear then you shouldn't need to break the tracks.

Regards

Phil[/quote]
The D2 is notoriously difficult compared to the larger tractors (D4 included) as the only way to access the steering clutches is to pull the final drives, and to do that you need to remove the tracks, track frames, pivot shaft and drawbar.
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Sun, Oct 16, 2022 3:50 AM
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Reply to Wombat:
you have the pin with the large and small plug, you drive the small plug in and drive right through to drive the large lug out.

Wombat
[quote="Wombat post=241316 userid=4746"]you have the pin with the large and small plug, you drive the small plug in and drive right through to drive the large lug out.

Wombat [/quote]
Thanks Wombat,
I'm a little stumped as from what I can see from my Servicemen's reference book: 
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I should be able to see the end of the tapered plug from the end of the master pin, at least the smaller plug, i.e. the plug should at least be slightly recessed or proud of the end of the master pin, somewhere where I have indicated with the red circle below, however I can see nothing, even with cleaning up the end of the pin: 
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Sun, Oct 16, 2022 4:04 AM
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Reply to Markds3:
[quote="Wombat post=241316 userid=4746"]you have the pin with the large and small plug, you drive the small plug in and drive right through to drive the large lug out.

Wombat [/quote]
Thanks Wombat,
I'm a little stumped as from what I can see from my Servicemen's reference book: 
[attachment=69152]Screenshot 2022-10-16 095722.png[/attachment]
I should be able to see the end of the tapered plug from the end of the master pin, at least the smaller plug, i.e. the plug should at least be slightly recessed or proud of the end of the master pin, somewhere where I have indicated with the red circle below, however I can see nothing, even with cleaning up the end of the pin: 
[attachment=69154]Screenshot 2022-10-16 100142.png[/attachment]
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Thats a late style master pin, they put the recesses in to locate it on the rails. Doesn't look like it was hammered in enough on the one side.
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Sun, Oct 16, 2022 5:24 AM
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Reply to Rome K/G:
Thats a late style master pin, they put the recesses in to locate it on the rails. Doesn't look like it was hammered in enough on the one side.

Thanks Rome, so to remove it you just pound on the end until it drifts right through? I've been trying with a brass drift and a sledge hitting it as hard as I can and I can't get it to budge, any suggestions?
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Sun, Oct 16, 2022 7:46 AM
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Reply to Markds3:

Thanks Rome, so to remove it you just pound on the end until it drifts right through? I've been trying with a brass drift and a sledge hitting it as hard as I can and I can't get it to budge, any suggestions?
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You can try heating the pin boss on each side and maybe put a wood beam and jack to the other side track to support it better. Where you located? I have access to a pin press.
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Sun, Oct 16, 2022 9:06 AM
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You can try heating the pin boss on each side and maybe put a wood beam and jack to the other side track to support it better. Where you located? I have access to a pin press.

Thanks Rome, appreciate your offer to help. I'm in Nelson, New Zealand. I think I'll try some heat first.
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Sun, Oct 16, 2022 9:26 AM
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[quote="PhilC post=241314 userid=11059"]Hello Markds3
I may be wrong as I have never worked on a D2 but if you are only working on the clutches and the bevel gear then you shouldn't need to break the tracks.

Regards

Phil[/quote]
The D2 is notoriously difficult compared to the larger tractors (D4 included) as the only way to access the steering clutches is to pull the final drives, and to do that you need to remove the tracks, track frames, pivot shaft and drawbar.
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[quote="PhilC post=241314 userid=11059"]Hello Markds3
I may be wrong as I have never worked on a D2 but if you are only working on the clutches and the bevel gear then you shouldn't need to break the tracks.

Regards

Phil
The D2 is notoriously difficult compared to the larger tractors (D4 included) as the only way to access the steering clutches is to pull the final drives, and to do that you need to remove the tracks, track frames, pivot shaft and drawbar.
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Ah OK thanks for that info. As I said I have never worked on one so I did not know it is such a huge job to access the clutches.

One thing that worked well for us is a big chunk of railway line with the end cut to fit near the pin and the other end anchored. Makes a huge difference flogging track pins out.
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