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I have a Be-Ge Pump on my D4 7U. I searched here on the site for previous info concerning these pumps. I found some posts from a few years back where Old Magnet was working with another member to obtain some documentation on these pumps. Does anyone know if that info was ever made available? My pump is a Model #1400, serial # 4PU276. It is leaking and I would like to attempt a repair.

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Bruce
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Wed, Jun 6, 2018 10:45 PM
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Hi Bruce, I was just given a Be Ge pump for my D4 7U. I have dome some research and found Associated Tractor in Stockton Ca. (209-466-3003) has some parts and information. Ask for Tom. Mine is the Model 1200. Let me know what you find out.
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Wed, Jun 6, 2018 11:15 PM
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Reply to d4angelo:
Hi Bruce, I was just given a Be Ge pump for my D4 7U. I have dome some research and found Associated Tractor in Stockton Ca. (209-466-3003) has some parts and information. Ask for Tom. Mine is the Model 1200. Let me know what you find out.
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Thanks D4angelo, I will contact them. I am hoping to find a parts diagram so I have some idea what to expect before I start any repairs.

Bruce
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Wed, Jun 6, 2018 11:20 PM
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Reply to blwatson:
Thanks D4angelo, I will contact them. I am hoping to find a parts diagram so I have some idea what to expect before I start any repairs.

Bruce
Wow, early bird! Yes, talk to TOM! He is the owner and knows the pumps well.
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Wed, Jun 6, 2018 11:38 PM
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Wow, early bird! Yes, talk to TOM! He is the owner and knows the pumps well.
I have some info but in general it is hard to come by.
Here is the schematic for the #1400 pump.
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Wed, Jun 6, 2018 11:46 PM
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Reply to Old Magnet:
I have some info but in general it is hard to come by.
Here is the schematic for the #1400 pump.
Hi O.M. Do you happen to have the schematic for the 1200 also?
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 12:08 AM
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Hi O.M. Do you happen to have the schematic for the 1200 also?
Thanks for that scan Old Magnet, I have 2 of these Bee Gee pumps apart here in Australia that need reconditioning, one off a D4 2T and one off a RD6, on both the drive shaft seal is shot, the D4 was actually pumping hydraulic oil into the D4 transmission and from there into the main clutch housing!

With the help of my Fitter and Turner neighbor Geoff we looked at the D4 pump 2 years back and thought a modern ceramic seal could in theory replace the old seal but are we correct not knowing how much pressure there is in that drive tunnel, in theory it is low pressure but can it get spikes that would blow a modern ceramic seal?

Who makes the "replacement" seal A13449, and that number V-754 is I assume the bronze sleeve in that drive tunnel?
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Mike
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 2:42 AM
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Reply to d4angelo:
Hi O.M. Do you happen to have the schematic for the 1200 also?
Thanks Old Magnet, That gives me a place to start. I also saw an old post where someone had obtained some repair parts from Motion Industries.

D4angelo, I will let you know what I find out. It may be a while since my D4 is in the mountains about a 2 1/2 hour drive away and I am not sure when I will get back to work on it.

Also wanted to thank everyone that helped me out with my water pump rebuild. Did a total rebuild and everything is working good. It turned out to be a much less complicated job than I had anticipated.

Bruce
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 3:09 AM
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Hi O.M. Do you happen to have the schematic for the 1200 also?


Where are you reading that number. The info I have shows the 3200, 1400, 1000 series to be pumps. The only reference to 1200 I have is that is the model # for the control and pressure relief valves (stacked type).
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 3:18 AM
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Reply to Mike Meyer:
Thanks for that scan Old Magnet, I have 2 of these Bee Gee pumps apart here in Australia that need reconditioning, one off a D4 2T and one off a RD6, on both the drive shaft seal is shot, the D4 was actually pumping hydraulic oil into the D4 transmission and from there into the main clutch housing!

With the help of my Fitter and Turner neighbor Geoff we looked at the D4 pump 2 years back and thought a modern ceramic seal could in theory replace the old seal but are we correct not knowing how much pressure there is in that drive tunnel, in theory it is low pressure but can it get spikes that would blow a modern ceramic seal?

Who makes the "replacement" seal A13449, and that number V-754 is I assume the bronze sleeve in that drive tunnel?
Thanks
Mike
[quote="Mike Meyer"]Thanks for that scan Old Magnet, I have 2 of these Bee Gee pumps apart here in Australia that need reconditioning, one off a D4 2T and one off a RD6, on both the drive shaft seal is shot, the D4 was actually pumping hydraulic oil into the D4 transmission and from there into the main clutch housing!

With the help of my Fitter and Turner neighbor Geoff we looked at the D4 pump 2 years back and thought a modern ceramic seal could in theory replace the old seal but are we correct not knowing how much pressure there is in that drive tunnel, in theory it is low pressure but can it get spikes that would blow a modern ceramic seal?

Who makes the "replacement" seal A13449, and that number V-754 is I assume the bronze sleeve in that drive tunnel?
Thanks
Mike[/quote]

Pressure for the #1400 should not exceed 850 psi. You'd want to be sure you have a functioning pressure relief valve. Leakage along the shaft has been known to warp covers and thrust plates. As far as the seal replacement that's where Associated Tractor comes in. They are the only source I know that offers a replacement seal although I don't think they have anything exclusive.
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Thu, Jun 7, 2018 3:31 AM
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Reply to d4angelo:
Hi Bruce, I was just given a Be Ge pump for my D4 7U. I have dome some research and found Associated Tractor in Stockton Ca. (209-466-3003) has some parts and information. Ask for Tom. Mine is the Model 1200. Let me know what you find out.
D4Angelo
[quote="d4angelo"]Hi Bruce, I was just given a Be Ge pump for my D4 7U. I have dome some research and found Associated Tractor in Stockton Ca. (209-466-3003) has some parts and information. Ask for Tom. Mine is the Model 1200. Let me know what you find out.
D4Angelo[/quote]

Yours should be a 1000; the 1200 number is for the valve (correct me if wrong) body. Yours didn’t appear to need anything aside from a good cleaning. The mud covering the input shaft didn’t have any obvious fluid leaks. Get that thing buttoned up so you can let someone play with it.
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