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I hope that no one else has an experience like mine. Here's a quick summary:
I posted on the buy/sell page, WTB CAT 22 Bottom Rollers, and gave my name and phone number. A few days later I got a call from a man who identified himself as Alan L. Kahn. He said that he was contacted by an ACMOC member and friend who lives in California telling him about my post. He said he lives in New Mexico, but was in Nevada (I traced his cell phone to Fallon, NV) for a closing on his deceased father's house. He said that his father was a CAT guy and happened to have twelve CAT 22 bottom rollers that had been rebuilt, including new shafts, with collars. He said he had to clear out all the CAT stuff, and that time was critical because of the house closing. He also said that there was a club member in Washington State who also wanted some of the rollers. He called me back after he checked on shipping costs, and we agreed on a price for the rollers. Because he was not at his home the only way to get the money to him was via Western Union. He said he would get the rollers to UPS and call me back with the tracking number. I got several other calls from him with progress toward shipping the rollers, the last one saying that he was taking the rollers to a friend in Sacramento, CA for shipping. Then the calls stopped and there was no answer when I tried to call him, many times. The last time I called I got a recording that the phone number was no longer active.

If any club member has any information that would help me track down this guy I would appreciate your help. Ray
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Tue, Nov 13, 2018 8:17 AM
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Ray I was stuck by the same schlockmister the whole story read exactly as yours I was to get a belt pulley and lever for a two ton cat. parts were in a box on the shelf and needed money order to ship as he flew in and was flying out in two hours he used the name Salomon Genovese phone was a Reno area code in addition he had. a friend tell him he saw my add in smokestak as he had no computer and only a flip phone with no camera capabilities.
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 7:58 AM
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Ray I was stuck by the same schlockmister the whole story read exactly as yours I was to get a belt pulley and lever for a two ton cat. parts were in a box on the shelf and needed money order to ship as he flew in and was flying out in two hours he used the name Salomon Genovese phone was a Reno area code in addition he had. a friend tell him he saw my add in smokestak as he had no computer and only a flip phone with no camera capabilities.
With that kinda name......if you need an attorney......
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 9:39 AM
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With that kinda name......if you need an attorney......
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"He shoold be put into da coolah!!!!! Forevah!!!!!!!!"
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 9:42 AM
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"He shoold be put into da coolah!!!!! Forevah!!!!!!!!"
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"Hang em high"
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 9:44 AM
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"Hang em high"
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I use PayPal with good results. It is connected to each persons bank account. If there is fraud, PayPal takes the money back out of their account. If the person selling does not have a PayPal account, tell them to get one or don't do business with them. BUT< it does not cross international borders. Sorry (gemdozer) we will just have to trust you.
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 11:30 AM
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Reply to oldbeek:
I use PayPal with good results. It is connected to each persons bank account. If there is fraud, PayPal takes the money back out of their account. If the person selling does not have a PayPal account, tell them to get one or don't do business with them. BUT< it does not cross international borders. Sorry (gemdozer) we will just have to trust you.
I would be very leery making a deal with a person whose name is A. Kahn...pronounced A. CON!:nono:
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Fri, Dec 14, 2018 8:19 PM
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I would be very leery making a deal with a person whose name is A. Kahn...pronounced A. CON!:nono:
Never ever pay with a wire transfer!!!!!
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 4:11 AM
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Never ever pay with a wire transfer!!!!!
Never under and circumstances make any payment through a wire transfer especially WalMart and the worst Western Union. In fact there are many warnings out there against purchasing something with a wire transfer. The bad guys know that it's a federal offense to us the USPS for money transfers as it is to use a bank transfer. So generally whats a minor crime can turn into a felony. That's why they like Western Union. And Western Union doesn't care because they already charged you and they have their money.

Sorry you got took but it is what it is.

Rick
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 6:00 AM
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Never under and circumstances make any payment through a wire transfer especially WalMart and the worst Western Union. In fact there are many warnings out there against purchasing something with a wire transfer. The bad guys know that it's a federal offense to us the USPS for money transfers as it is to use a bank transfer. So generally whats a minor crime can turn into a felony. That's why they like Western Union. And Western Union doesn't care because they already charged you and they have their money.

Sorry you got took but it is what it is.

Rick
so Ray--have you tried to file a small claims action in that state against him?? Usually it can be done online---if not try to utilize a collection agency
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 6:29 AM
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so Ray--have you tried to file a small claims action in that state against him?? Usually it can be done online---if not try to utilize a collection agency


That is if he can positively ID the scammer. No positive ID how you gonna do a small claims action? Guy could have been using a false name and fake ID. Same with a collection agency. They don't like getting sued.

Hope he can get it worked out but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Rick
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Sat, Dec 15, 2018 7:33 AM
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