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Why two track gauge's on the D4?

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Moobi
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Hello all.

Can anyone refer me to Caterpillar material, or a reason why the D4 had the 44in and 60 inch track gauge?
I've got a '52 6U and understand there were fewer built than the 7U, just wondering why..?
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Thu, Dec 29, 2022 7:01 AM
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Welcome to the BB Moobi. Around here, some farmers preferred the narrow 6U over a wide 7U because they could squeeze between the trees easier/closer, also in narrow rows of grapes, they wouldn't get tangled in the vines as easy, even with the "sweeps" that some installed to keep from tearing up their vineyard. There was a shortage of wide machines here at one time, and some had their machines made into wide gauge machines because they said they did not slip on turns as easily as a narrow. Wide were more popular IMO.
Any pictures of your machine to share? We LIKE photos. JM
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Thu, Dec 29, 2022 7:09 AM
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Reply to juiceman:
Welcome to the BB Moobi. Around here, some farmers preferred the narrow 6U over a wide 7U because they could squeeze between the trees easier/closer, also in narrow rows of grapes, they wouldn't get tangled in the vines as easy, even with the "sweeps" that some installed to keep from tearing up their vineyard. There was a shortage of wide machines here at one time, and some had their machines made into wide gauge machines because they said they did not slip on turns as easily as a narrow. Wide were more popular IMO.
Any pictures of your machine to share? We LIKE photos. JM
Thank you JM.
I thought that may be the case - reflecting the crop rows and possiby a natural evolution from earlier tractor gauges...
Yes, I'm putting together a few photos and a bit on my machine. It was sold new in Australia and stayed with the same owner for 70 years. I'll include photos of the tools, manuals and the grease pump that came with it. I'm a few days away from putting that together but am on it. Thankfully it's not been modified and is running well!
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Thu, Dec 29, 2022 7:25 AM
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Reply to Moobi:
Thank you JM.
I thought that may be the case - reflecting the crop rows and possiby a natural evolution from earlier tractor gauges...
Yes, I'm putting together a few photos and a bit on my machine. It was sold new in Australia and stayed with the same owner for 70 years. I'll include photos of the tools, manuals and the grease pump that came with it. I'm a few days away from putting that together but am on it. Thankfully it's not been modified and is running well!
Send pics of her "as is" unless your tractor is bashful! No need for glamour photos hahaha. Sounds like you did very well by getting all of the goodies with it. That's always a plus. Occasionally I get a few tools by searching the toolbox or under the seat; if I buy some more tractors, I may have the full tool set eventually. JM
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Thu, Dec 29, 2022 11:33 PM
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Reply to juiceman:
Send pics of her "as is" unless your tractor is bashful! No need for glamour photos hahaha. Sounds like you did very well by getting all of the goodies with it. That's always a plus. Occasionally I get a few tools by searching the toolbox or under the seat; if I buy some more tractors, I may have the full tool set eventually. JM
Standard vs Wide Gauge
Wide Gauge advantages-
Greater stability, less ground pressure, greater traction in soft soils especially turning with loads and in many cases ride quality.
My experiences working prunes, peaches, almonds, walnuts, pecans and open fields, I never had an instance where wide gauge was an issue of consideration.
Grapes and other narrow spaced plantings would be an exception.
In some cases Wide Plates were not wide enough and there were additions for extra flotation - IE --- blocks bolted to the track plates. That practice dates back to the days of the Thirty's and Sixty's working the rice here in the northern end of the Sacramento Valley, especially in the alkali fields. Peat soils of the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta were an issue also.

Wide Gauge and Standard gauge are different machines - there is much more than just changing track pads (plates).

Standard and wide gauge were in use long before the diesel era - not elite to the D4 series.
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