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Sweet D2
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I am wondering where the center of gravity is for my D2 3J68xx.
Only accessory is rear belt drive off of PTO.
For trailering purposes I would like to know where the CG is to ensure good tongue weight.
Any suggestions or data would be appreciated.
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brian
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Kern Co, CA
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Tue, Apr 30, 2013 11:50 AM
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Lay a piece of pipe on the ground wider then the machine. Drive over and when the machine tips over it the will be very close to the horizontal CG point. The the vertical and cross wise CG point are not important to establish your tongue weight.

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Tue, Apr 30, 2013 5:31 PM
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Reply to timbo1946:
Lay a piece of pipe on the ground wider then the machine. Drive over and when the machine tips over it the will be very close to the horizontal CG point. The the vertical and cross wise CG point are not important to establish your tongue weight.

Tim
Hi, Sweet D2.
Timbo1946's advice is sound as far as it goes. You may want to take it a step further. I don't know if you have ever seen a 'teeter-totter' competition for tractors where they have a platform on a balance point and a contestant drives their tractor up the platform trying to find the balance point without send the platform completely the other way. You can do something similar at home withe a small log and a couple of old railroad ties or other sturdy planks - simple yet effective - - - - - and fun as well as educational.

just my 0.02.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Tue, Apr 30, 2013 7:22 PM
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Hi, Sweet D2.
Timbo1946's advice is sound as far as it goes. You may want to take it a step further. I don't know if you have ever seen a 'teeter-totter' competition for tractors where they have a platform on a balance point and a contestant drives their tractor up the platform trying to find the balance point without send the platform completely the other way. You can do something similar at home withe a small log and a couple of old railroad ties or other sturdy planks - simple yet effective - - - - - and fun as well as educational.

just my 0.02.
I'm not going to say the CG is irrelevant, but what matters is how your truck pulls the trailer + load . I try to borrow a goose neck for the heavier loads because it is less sensitive to load position.
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Tue, Apr 30, 2013 9:24 PM
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I'm not going to say the CG is irrelevant, but what matters is how your truck pulls the trailer + load . I try to borrow a goose neck for the heavier loads because it is less sensitive to load position.
I agree with STEPHEN as I tend to have a sweet spot for hitch ride hieght that sets tongue wieght.
I believe a person could indeed find "CG" for the load, then find "CG" for the trailer and come to the same conclusion?
Isn't tongue wieght also a max value rating on the hitch?
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Tue, Apr 30, 2013 11:02 PM
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Reply to drujinin:
I agree with STEPHEN as I tend to have a sweet spot for hitch ride hieght that sets tongue wieght.
I believe a person could indeed find "CG" for the load, then find "CG" for the trailer and come to the same conclusion?
Isn't tongue wieght also a max value rating on the hitch?
Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil
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Tue, Apr 30, 2013 11:41 PM
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Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil
I tow with a 2500 Dodge Cummins and a 14K Walton trailer. I always measure the height under the front wheel arch on the truck and have someone stand with the tape measure and let me know when the front has raised up two inches as I load the Cat. It gives me a sense of comfort knowing the tractor and trailer combo have plenty of tongue weight. I once brought home a lot of chain link fencing with little to no tongue weight and that taught me a good lesson!
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Wed, May 1, 2013 1:16 AM
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I tow with a 2500 Dodge Cummins and a 14K Walton trailer. I always measure the height under the front wheel arch on the truck and have someone stand with the tape measure and let me know when the front has raised up two inches as I load the Cat. It gives me a sense of comfort knowing the tractor and trailer combo have plenty of tongue weight. I once brought home a lot of chain link fencing with little to no tongue weight and that taught me a good lesson!
Neil

Give me a little more time and we can use my new truck (new to me) and the trailer to get your D2. Hope to have done by end of July 😊
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Wed, May 1, 2013 3:10 AM
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Reply to neil:
Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil
[quote="Neil"]Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil[/quote]

Neil--thanks for that tidbit of info! I have a Reese 5th wheel hitch in my pickup and Reese sells a goose neck adapter that fits the bed rails. It's rated 25K towing and 6250 tongue and for $215. 👍
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Wed, May 1, 2013 3:51 AM
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Reply to neil:
Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil
[quote="Neil"]Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil[/quote]

I put the B&W turnover ball on my pickup just so I could borrow a nice trailer. It wasn't too had to install & has worked well so far.
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Wed, May 1, 2013 4:08 AM
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Reply to STEPHEN:
[quote="Neil"]Sidebar: I'm ordering a B&W Turnover ball gooseneck for my pickup, and then I'll be hiring Tim's trailer to go get my D2 ; )
Those hitches seem to have really good press, and I like that with the same system I can also use a fifth wheel.

Cheers,
Neil[/quote]

I put the B&W turnover ball on my pickup just so I could borrow a nice trailer. It wasn't too had to install & has worked well so far.
Looks like a road trip's in order Tim! Nice looking rig : )
Dan, that is a great price - is that fitted or parts?
Cheers
Neil
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