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Orchard22
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my friend is offering to sell me his D6-8U s/n: 8U7030SP w/ cat blade s/n: 15C279.
the good: both engines run strong w/ lot's of power , good U.C. , all-around great machine
the bad: the blade needs new cylinders
so what I'm wondering is: if the cost of the cyl.s is so great that he'd rather sell it than repair it? , and what is it worth? , and what are the spec.s so if I need to I can get a shipping quote?
THANKS GUYS!!!!
1935 Caterpillar
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serial number:2F2204
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Sat, Nov 13, 2010 9:38 AM
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[quote="Orchard22"]my friend is offering to sell me his D6-8U s/n: 8U7030SP w/ cat blade s/n: 15C279.
the good: both engines run strong w/ lot's of power , good U.C. , all-around great machine
the bad: the blade needs new cylinders
so what I'm wondering is: if the cost of the cyl.s is so great that he'd rather sell it than repair it? , and what is it worth? , and what are the spec.s so if I need to I can get a shipping quote?
THANKS GUYS!!!![/quote]To give you an idea of cost if you need to replace a cylinder that is not rebuildable. I just paid $1400 for a lift cyl on my 955h. It's not the same, but I had quotes from $1600 to 1750 to rebuild or buy used.
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Sat, Nov 13, 2010 6:18 PM
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Some information from OzDozer posted over on ACME a while back.....

D6 8U/9U .. 8U (60" gauge) = 16,725 lbs (7590 kg approx) .. 9U (74" gauge) = 17215 lbs (7810 kgs approx) ..

A cable angle blade for the above comes in around the following weights ..

60" gauge = 3877 lbs (1760 kg approx) ..
74" gauge = 4151 lbs (1880 kg approx) ..

The straight blade comes in at ..

60" gauge = 3335 lbs (1515 kg approx) ..
74" gauge = 3610 lbs (1640 kg approx) ..

The most common Cable Control Unit is the rear mounted, double drum, #25 CCU .. the weight of which on the D6 is 2070 lbs (940 kgs approx) ..

The Hyster D6C winch comes in at around 1900 lbs (860 kg approx) .. but a Hyster winch reduces the tractor weight by approximately 300 lbs .. as the standard Cat drawbar has to be removed, for the Winch to be fitted ..
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Sat, Nov 13, 2010 8:50 PM
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Some information from OzDozer posted over on ACME a while back.....

D6 8U/9U .. 8U (60" gauge) = 16,725 lbs (7590 kg approx) .. 9U (74" gauge) = 17215 lbs (7810 kgs approx) ..

A cable angle blade for the above comes in around the following weights ..

60" gauge = 3877 lbs (1760 kg approx) ..
74" gauge = 4151 lbs (1880 kg approx) ..

The straight blade comes in at ..

60" gauge = 3335 lbs (1515 kg approx) ..
74" gauge = 3610 lbs (1640 kg approx) ..

The most common Cable Control Unit is the rear mounted, double drum, #25 CCU .. the weight of which on the D6 is 2070 lbs (940 kgs approx) ..

The Hyster D6C winch comes in at around 1900 lbs (860 kg approx) .. but a Hyster winch reduces the tractor weight by approximately 300 lbs .. as the standard Cat drawbar has to be removed, for the Winch to be fitted ..
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so now that I know that a new cyl. can cost up to $2,000.00 , what do you guys think the dozer is worth? , both engines run strong , good pad and rail height , solid front idlers w/ good height, sprockets have good height , the blade is possibly a 6-way , but is definitely a hard-nose hyd. setup, and he didn't use it very much. so that said what do you guys think I should pay for it?
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serial number:2F2204
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Sat, Nov 13, 2010 9:50 PM
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so now that I know that a new cyl. can cost up to $2,000.00 , what do you guys think the dozer is worth? , both engines run strong , good pad and rail height , solid front idlers w/ good height, sprockets have good height , the blade is possibly a 6-way , but is definitely a hard-nose hyd. setup, and he didn't use it very much. so that said what do you guys think I should pay for it?
What is it worth? Does your friend have a price in mind? How badly do you want it? How good of a friend is he? Forgetting about the cylinder for the moment, how much is it going to cost to get it shipped? All these factors come into play here.

Look around your area and see if you can find an average price. This will change by areas, East coast vs West coast, North or South.
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Sat, Nov 13, 2010 10:16 PM
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What is it worth? Does your friend have a price in mind? How badly do you want it? How good of a friend is he? Forgetting about the cylinder for the moment, how much is it going to cost to get it shipped? All these factors come into play here.

Look around your area and see if you can find an average price. This will change by areas, East coast vs West coast, North or South.
ol Grump you're right and well, he doesn't have a price ,and it's only 20 miles point to point and I can get it shipped cheap , I want it to replace the D4-2T we have , because I need a stronger tractor w/ an angle blade for the job I'm doing , and he is a really great friend who is offering the d6 to me 1ST, so , I can get the cyl. replaced for $1,500.00, so minus the cost of a new cyl. what is this machine worth? and is the blade a 6-way I have the s/n:15C279 , I do not know as I am going by what he tells me, and have never seen the thing
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serial number:2F2204
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Sat, Nov 13, 2010 11:10 PM
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ol Grump you're right and well, he doesn't have a price ,and it's only 20 miles point to point and I can get it shipped cheap , I want it to replace the D4-2T we have , because I need a stronger tractor w/ an angle blade for the job I'm doing , and he is a really great friend who is offering the d6 to me 1ST, so , I can get the cyl. replaced for $1,500.00, so minus the cost of a new cyl. what is this machine worth? and is the blade a 6-way I have the s/n:15C279 , I do not know as I am going by what he tells me, and have never seen the thing
I had brand new cylinder rods machined for my 9u and new seals installed for 450.00 each. they cut the nuckles off and welded them on new stock. I ran it for 8 hrs. with no leaks.
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Sun, Nov 14, 2010 4:25 AM
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ol Grump you're right and well, he doesn't have a price ,and it's only 20 miles point to point and I can get it shipped cheap , I want it to replace the D4-2T we have , because I need a stronger tractor w/ an angle blade for the job I'm doing , and he is a really great friend who is offering the d6 to me 1ST, so , I can get the cyl. replaced for $1,500.00, so minus the cost of a new cyl. what is this machine worth? and is the blade a 6-way I have the s/n:15C279 , I do not know as I am going by what he tells me, and have never seen the thing
20 miles away is close for hauling. In our area, the D6 could be hauled without a special moving permit. I got both my D4 7U and my D8 14A hauled home for cheap by a good neighbor that was into hauling. The haul was under 5 miles for me and he only charged me $75 for hauling the D4, and the D8 was hauled for free as a special favor to me. The blade cylinders could be rebuilt by you if you are adventuresome. You could learn a lot about hydraulics and save money at the same time. The D6 is a very good size to work with. It has the best features of both the bigger and the smaller cats blended all into one. If you are into land clearing of stumps and boulders, a 6 way blade is too fragile for here-abouts. Here in Northwest Washington, most of the tree stumps are no less than 30" in diameter at the butt and on the first push, they will stop most machines dead. We have to chisel the roots loose around the stumps before we give them a serious push. And then when we push them, it is by hooking them with the corner of the blade and trying to twist them out of the ground. Hooking with a 6 way blade by the corner is tough on the blade mountings. The D6 is really good at taking out stumps though. You will like the D6.
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Sun, Nov 14, 2010 4:31 AM
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20 miles away is close for hauling. In our area, the D6 could be hauled without a special moving permit. I got both my D4 7U and my D8 14A hauled home for cheap by a good neighbor that was into hauling. The haul was under 5 miles for me and he only charged me $75 for hauling the D4, and the D8 was hauled for free as a special favor to me. The blade cylinders could be rebuilt by you if you are adventuresome. You could learn a lot about hydraulics and save money at the same time. The D6 is a very good size to work with. It has the best features of both the bigger and the smaller cats blended all into one. If you are into land clearing of stumps and boulders, a 6 way blade is too fragile for here-abouts. Here in Northwest Washington, most of the tree stumps are no less than 30" in diameter at the butt and on the first push, they will stop most machines dead. We have to chisel the roots loose around the stumps before we give them a serious push. And then when we push them, it is by hooking them with the corner of the blade and trying to twist them out of the ground. Hooking with a 6 way blade by the corner is tough on the blade mountings. The D6 is really good at taking out stumps though. You will like the D6.
that is great , but I mean money-wise , what should a machine like this go for?
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serial number:2F2204
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Sun, Nov 14, 2010 5:12 AM
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that is great , but I mean money-wise , what should a machine like this go for?
Orchard 22. Work out the total scrap weight x Dollars per ton this gives you a minmum value. After this calculation work out the cost of any repairs to get the old girl running to whatever spec you want, this can be done cheaper if you can locate good second hand spares and do the spanner work yourself. But you can spend a fortune if you want to get the D6 to pristine working condition it all depends how deep a pocket you have ? at the end of the day you normally get what you pay for,if you keep it long enough you will very rarely lose money, also the rarer it is it will always cost more than you bargained for.I know people in the UK who would not sell a V TIDY D6. under sixteen thousand dollars. Atlas
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Sun, Nov 14, 2010 6:26 AM
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Orchard 22. Work out the total scrap weight x Dollars per ton this gives you a minmum value. After this calculation work out the cost of any repairs to get the old girl running to whatever spec you want, this can be done cheaper if you can locate good second hand spares and do the spanner work yourself. But you can spend a fortune if you want to get the D6 to pristine working condition it all depends how deep a pocket you have ? at the end of the day you normally get what you pay for,if you keep it long enough you will very rarely lose money, also the rarer it is it will always cost more than you bargained for.I know people in the UK who would not sell a V TIDY D6. under sixteen thousand dollars. Atlas
Here in eastern Oregon I've seen decent 6U's go for anywhere from 3k to 9k, depending on how they're equipped, who is doing the selling and who is doing the buying. Like I said earlier, check around and see what comparable critters around you are going for to get some idea of a base price.
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