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lil d2
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Just wondering what oils people are running in their cats as I have a D2 up on my property I will be visiting real soon and want to check all fluids before firing it up to clear some trails.Are there some I am missing and should be checking as well?Thanks in advance.
Deisel engine-
Pup motor-
Starting engine clutch-
Fuel injection pump-
Transmission-
final drives-
hydraulics-
and all the little oil cups-
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 7:38 AM
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Take a look at this. Oil has been a hot topic for a long time from what I can tell. If you use the search option you will come up with a huge amount of information. It is a powerful tool.


http://acmocbb.org/ACMOC_BB/showthread.php?t=6351&highlight=oil+type
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:02 AM
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Take a look at this. Oil has been a hot topic for a long time from what I can tell. If you use the search option you will come up with a huge amount of information. It is a powerful tool.


http://acmocbb.org/ACMOC_BB/showthread.php?t=6351&highlight=oil+type
Thanks and my apologies.
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 9:38 AM
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Thanks and my apologies.
l'ild2-

Please don't take my reference to the search as discounting your question. It is a good one. It is just that there have been a multitude of discussions on this topic and more good information than I can recall or offer, so I just pointed you in a direction.

Take a look at this link too. It was one of those specific ones I was looking for as I have read on this quite a lot.

OzDozer and Old Magnet offer very good information along these lines. I know Oz has provided a few links to some of the chemical properties as a basis for his opinions. He also refers to an article that goes through and explains the grades and classifications of oils. Old Magnet discusses the constant changes in the oil technologies in a couple posts and offers comments on the effects on these older engines. If I tried to recount those discussions, I would flub them up for sure.

So...keep asking the questions. I was pointing out the "search" option only so you could find something that helps you the most. If I offended, my apologies. No harm done here.😉



http://www.antiquecaterpillar.net/ACF_v2/showthread.php?t=11910&highlight=oil+types


This is one where Oz spends some time on the oil classifications and does a pretty good job summarizing what most "guys" are using.

http://www.antiquecaterpillar.net/ACF_v2/showthread.php?t=8673&highlight=oil+types

CCJERSEY posts yet another link, but he goes through volumes on the d2-check the model against yours though...
http://acmocbb.org/ACMOC_BB/showthread.php?t=8316&highlight=pony+oil
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 10:09 AM
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l'ild2-

Please don't take my reference to the search as discounting your question. It is a good one. It is just that there have been a multitude of discussions on this topic and more good information than I can recall or offer, so I just pointed you in a direction.

Take a look at this link too. It was one of those specific ones I was looking for as I have read on this quite a lot.

OzDozer and Old Magnet offer very good information along these lines. I know Oz has provided a few links to some of the chemical properties as a basis for his opinions. He also refers to an article that goes through and explains the grades and classifications of oils. Old Magnet discusses the constant changes in the oil technologies in a couple posts and offers comments on the effects on these older engines. If I tried to recount those discussions, I would flub them up for sure.

So...keep asking the questions. I was pointing out the "search" option only so you could find something that helps you the most. If I offended, my apologies. No harm done here.😉



http://www.antiquecaterpillar.net/ACF_v2/showthread.php?t=11910&highlight=oil+types


This is one where Oz spends some time on the oil classifications and does a pretty good job summarizing what most "guys" are using.

http://www.antiquecaterpillar.net/ACF_v2/showthread.php?t=8673&highlight=oil+types

CCJERSEY posts yet another link, but he goes through volumes on the d2-check the model against yours though...
http://acmocbb.org/ACMOC_BB/showthread.php?t=8316&highlight=pony+oil
I'm getting great results with 15W-40 Chevron Delo400 for both diesels and ponys, clutch housing (D2) and in injection pumps.

I use EP 80-140 gear oil in transmissions and final drives. works fine.

I've switched to John Deere HyGard hydraulic/hydrostatic/transmission oil for oil cups. It doesn't harden on the felts and wicks like detergent motor oil does.

I've used semi-fluid EP grease in roller grease fittings. Molybdinum (spelling?) base chassis grease in other pressure greased points.

I don't have any Cat hydraulics. I use an ISO 32 hydraulic oil in the D2 system with Gresen pump and valve, Prince cylinders.

I am in an area of moderate temperatures--seldom (if ever) run below 20 F or above 90 F. I run a D2 5J and a D7 3T. These oils have worked for me for some 40 years in this area, may not be the last word for selection but all are readily available here.

I hope this is at least food for thought...
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 12:08 PM
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I'm getting great results with 15W-40 Chevron Delo400 for both diesels and ponys, clutch housing (D2) and in injection pumps.

I use EP 80-140 gear oil in transmissions and final drives. works fine.

I've switched to John Deere HyGard hydraulic/hydrostatic/transmission oil for oil cups. It doesn't harden on the felts and wicks like detergent motor oil does.

I've used semi-fluid EP grease in roller grease fittings. Molybdinum (spelling?) base chassis grease in other pressure greased points.

I don't have any Cat hydraulics. I use an ISO 32 hydraulic oil in the D2 system with Gresen pump and valve, Prince cylinders.

I am in an area of moderate temperatures--seldom (if ever) run below 20 F or above 90 F. I run a D2 5J and a D7 3T. These oils have worked for me for some 40 years in this area, may not be the last word for selection but all are readily available here.

I hope this is at least food for thought...
No problem bernie no offence at all,just thought if I posted with a list I would get some answers,and alot of forums I am on the search doesn't work.

Thank you both bernie and Jack for your knowledge.Other than yanking my JD1010 out of a mudhole which the 1010 eventually threw a rod through the block,I have not used the D2 very much.So before firing up the D2 as it has been sitting all winter,wanted to do things right so I don't have another 1010 disaster as I love this little machine and the way she performs.
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 2:20 PM
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No problem bernie no offence at all,just thought if I posted with a list I would get some answers,and alot of forums I am on the search doesn't work.

Thank you both bernie and Jack for your knowledge.Other than yanking my JD1010 out of a mudhole which the 1010 eventually threw a rod through the block,I have not used the D2 very much.So before firing up the D2 as it has been sitting all winter,wanted to do things right so I don't have another 1010 disaster as I love this little machine and the way she performs.
also for hydraulics some people say they run oil others say they run like a TDH hydraulic fluid.I just had the cylinder rebuilt and what came out of there is pretty dark could be oil or dirty hydraulic fluid,I do have TDH (I'm thinking thats what it is called) for the JD but don't want to put in the D2 if it is running oil,or would it harm the hydraulics?
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Fri, Feb 26, 2010 2:26 PM
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[quote="lil d2"]Just wondering what oils people are running in their cats as I have a D2 up on my property I will be visiting real soon and want to check all fluids before firing it up to clear some trails.Are there some I am missing and should be checking as well?Thanks in advance.
Deisel engine-
Pup motor-
Starting engine clutch-
Fuel injection pump-
Transmission-
final drives-
hydraulics-
and all the little oil cups-[/quote]

I did a little looking today and found information on the Amsoil web motoroildealer.com. That may be more information than you are wanting but it does an easy to understand job of explaining what the oil ratings mean once you identify the specifications for your applications. Oil composition is always changing and I would like to know too what current oils compare well with the old specifications.
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Sat, Feb 27, 2010 12:55 PM
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Reply to cat60:
[quote="lil d2"]Just wondering what oils people are running in their cats as I have a D2 up on my property I will be visiting real soon and want to check all fluids before firing it up to clear some trails.Are there some I am missing and should be checking as well?Thanks in advance.
Deisel engine-
Pup motor-
Starting engine clutch-
Fuel injection pump-
Transmission-
final drives-
hydraulics-
and all the little oil cups-[/quote]

I did a little looking today and found information on the Amsoil web motoroildealer.com. That may be more information than you are wanting but it does an easy to understand job of explaining what the oil ratings mean once you identify the specifications for your applications. Oil composition is always changing and I would like to know too what current oils compare well with the old specifications.
I use a bit of Rislone on the pony engine. really seems to help with the seals and oil consumption. I use 3/4 quart oil 30 wt. and 1/4 quart Rislone.

But then again I use Rislone in all my equipment, cars etc. And no I'm not selling it or have any ties to it. My granpa swore by it and I really see the good results.
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Sat, Feb 27, 2010 1:29 PM
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[quote="lil d2"]Just wondering what oils people are running in their cats as I have a D2 up on my property I will be visiting real soon and want to check all fluids before firing it up to clear some trails.Are there some I am missing and should be checking as well?Thanks in advance.
Deisel engine-
Pup motor-
Starting engine clutch-
Fuel injection pump-
Transmission-
final drives-
hydraulics-
and all the little oil cups-[/quote]

I did a little looking today and found information on the Amsoil web motoroildealer.com. That may be more information than you are wanting but it does an easy to understand job of explaining what the oil ratings mean once you identify the specifications for your applications. Oil composition is always changing and I would like to know too what current oils compare well with the old specifications.
I have run whatever the latest DELO is for years in all places where engine oil is recommended. That means Briggs and Stratton, Gasoline Auto engines, Diesel Pickups, and all tractors gas or diesel.

Many miles and hours and have never had an engine fail due to lubrication. Come to think of it the engine I ever had fail is when I was in Battle Mountain NV and ran out of water.

Also, never added additives. When you look under the valve covers they are as clean as new.
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Sat, Feb 27, 2010 1:38 PM
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I have run whatever the latest DELO is for years in all places where engine oil is recommended. That means Briggs and Stratton, Gasoline Auto engines, Diesel Pickups, and all tractors gas or diesel.

Many miles and hours and have never had an engine fail due to lubrication. Come to think of it the engine I ever had fail is when I was in Battle Mountain NV and ran out of water.

Also, never added additives. When you look under the valve covers they are as clean as new.
cojhl2, you got it; that's what I mean by use what works for you.😊

Just a note about Delo: delo 400 is all-purpose crankcase oil--everything from the lawn mower to the truck or tractor. There is another grade Delo that is for diesel only, and they mean big diesels under severe service. I don't know much at all about it, except that it will tolerate much more sulfuric acid accumulation from combustion. I'm under the impression that you don't want to run it unless you're planning to pound the h*** out of it.😮
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