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Farmall Man
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Any ideas as to what this is, or what it was for???
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 1:08 AM
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Extra roll of cable if the machine is cable operated?
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 1:16 AM
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Extra roll of cable if the machine is cable operated?
Bob
yes i think that there used to be a roll of cable, the cable is still atached to the cable witch is used for the blade, if that one is too old / bad / worn you can replace it easily by pulling on the old cable (after unlocking it ) and pulling the new cable thru all the sheaves.
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 3:49 AM
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yes i think that there used to be a roll of cable, the cable is still atached to the cable witch is used for the blade, if that one is too old / bad / worn you can replace it easily by pulling on the old cable (after unlocking it ) and pulling the new cable thru all the sheaves.
Your right on all accounts boys.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/ksb/Cable_Reel_1.jpg

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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 4:25 AM
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Your right on all accounts boys.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/ksb/Cable_Reel_1.jpg

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That would have been a pretty good idea. I ran a cable scraper behind a D7 one summer on a canal job in the mid 60's and it seems like we changed the cable a lot. Don't remember seeing anything like that on any of the Cats.

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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 8:12 AM
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That would have been a pretty good idea. I ran a cable scraper behind a D7 one summer on a canal job in the mid 60's and it seems like we changed the cable a lot. Don't remember seeing anything like that on any of the Cats.
I have some thing similar on my 18a D9 makes it easier to re-spool the cable, usaly you only need to cut off about 15' and just pull some more from the spool. Saves from packing around cable you let the machine carry it.😎
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 9:25 AM
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I have some thing similar on my 18a D9 makes it easier to re-spool the cable, usaly you only need to cut off about 15' and just pull some more from the spool. Saves from packing around cable you let the machine carry it.😎
A lot of the old Le Tourneau scrapers and subsoilers used for land leveling in central CA always seemed to have a spool mounted on the back carrying extra cable.

I didn't think about until now after reading Kelly's brochure the end of the cable was the spool.
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 12:58 PM
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A lot of the old Le Tourneau scrapers and subsoilers used for land leveling in central CA always seemed to have a spool mounted on the back carrying extra cable.

I didn't think about until now after reading Kelly's brochure the end of the cable was the spool.
Caterpillar just thought of everything didn't they!! What type of cable should you use on this machine, anything special?? Got to looking at it last night after i pushed a couple trees over and it needs both the cable in the Rear CCU and in the front sheaves replaced, starting to look a bit tattered!!
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 7:04 PM
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Caterpillar just thought of everything didn't they!! What type of cable should you use on this machine, anything special?? Got to looking at it last night after i pushed a couple trees over and it needs both the cable in the Rear CCU and in the front sheaves replaced, starting to look a bit tattered!!
I'm going to take an educated guess on the wire rope using an old LeTourneau spec, the manual for your model CCU/ blade should specify, and this spec could be the wrong diameter for that tractor but I thought most of these used 1/2" diameter of the following type: 1/2" dia. 6x19(with filler wires/independent wire rope center) right lay is normally used, preformed, Langlay type, internally lubricated, manufactured from improved plow steel.

Looks like you have a 4 part line on that one, (if that is correct)

I do know that this is the type of wire rope for that application, it is designed for use with multiple sheaves like what is on these tractors, and according to an old industrial catalog, ( some of these old books have very useful information on products like this ):

Circa 1950 R.B. Wing catalog #50 Albany, N.Y. (they were in business since 1845, I used to buy from them, we don't have places like this anymore, was sad to see them fold up back in the 90's)

MFR: A. LESCHEN & SONS ROPE CO.

[center]PREFORMED WIRE ROPE[/center]

For many purposes a preformed wire rope has certain favorable characteristics which make for increased efficiency. Some of the most important of these features are: Not easily kinked. As broken wires lie practically flat, they are not apt to injure hands of men handling it.

In certain constructions it is somewhat more flexible, which combined with its inert qualities, makes for smoother spooling and easier and quicker handling.

The preforming process minimizes the tendency of Lang Lay wire rope to loop or squirm.

As the wires and strands are preformed or shaped to the natural form they will occupy in the rope, there is less internal movement of the wires and strands, all of which tends to reduce both external and internal wear, and makes for longer life on the job.

GRADE OF ROPE:

[center]HERCULES (LESCHEN)[/center]


This is a rope of the very highest quality in the improved plow steel grade. It is the correct combination of tensile strength, elasticity, toughness, and the ability to withstand wear. Recommended for heavy work of various kinds. Made with one red strand, which is the mark which identifies that high quality is maintained.

[i]I believe this information was written by this manufacturer, but it is interesting to anyone who has never given much thought about wire rope, no doubt you will get the best results using the type that is called for, for the application, like this tractor.

I've never spooled one of these, but assume that using the CCU drum, connecting the new to the old wire rope in the front, and using the drum to pull it through would be the path of least resistance, however, I always wondered what you do with the old wire rope on the drum, leave it, wrap over it or I would think better to pull enough through disconnect it, unspool the old, and connect the new wire rope and spool on what you need according to the CCU specs. good to know as I've got some real aged wire rope on mine, better to get it before it snaps, looks a lot easier.[/i]
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 8:33 PM
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I'm going to take an educated guess on the wire rope using an old LeTourneau spec, the manual for your model CCU/ blade should specify, and this spec could be the wrong diameter for that tractor but I thought most of these used 1/2" diameter of the following type: 1/2" dia. 6x19(with filler wires/independent wire rope center) right lay is normally used, preformed, Langlay type, internally lubricated, manufactured from improved plow steel.

Looks like you have a 4 part line on that one, (if that is correct)

I do know that this is the type of wire rope for that application, it is designed for use with multiple sheaves like what is on these tractors, and according to an old industrial catalog, ( some of these old books have very useful information on products like this ):

Circa 1950 R.B. Wing catalog #50 Albany, N.Y. (they were in business since 1845, I used to buy from them, we don't have places like this anymore, was sad to see them fold up back in the 90's)

MFR: A. LESCHEN & SONS ROPE CO.

[center]PREFORMED WIRE ROPE[/center]

For many purposes a preformed wire rope has certain favorable characteristics which make for increased efficiency. Some of the most important of these features are: Not easily kinked. As broken wires lie practically flat, they are not apt to injure hands of men handling it.

In certain constructions it is somewhat more flexible, which combined with its inert qualities, makes for smoother spooling and easier and quicker handling.

The preforming process minimizes the tendency of Lang Lay wire rope to loop or squirm.

As the wires and strands are preformed or shaped to the natural form they will occupy in the rope, there is less internal movement of the wires and strands, all of which tends to reduce both external and internal wear, and makes for longer life on the job.

GRADE OF ROPE:

[center]HERCULES (LESCHEN)[/center]


This is a rope of the very highest quality in the improved plow steel grade. It is the correct combination of tensile strength, elasticity, toughness, and the ability to withstand wear. Recommended for heavy work of various kinds. Made with one red strand, which is the mark which identifies that high quality is maintained.

[i]I believe this information was written by this manufacturer, but it is interesting to anyone who has never given much thought about wire rope, no doubt you will get the best results using the type that is called for, for the application, like this tractor.

I've never spooled one of these, but assume that using the CCU drum, connecting the new to the old wire rope in the front, and using the drum to pull it through would be the path of least resistance, however, I always wondered what you do with the old wire rope on the drum, leave it, wrap over it or I would think better to pull enough through disconnect it, unspool the old, and connect the new wire rope and spool on what you need according to the CCU specs. good to know as I've got some real aged wire rope on mine, better to get it before it snaps, looks a lot easier.[/i]
What do you mean a 4 part line??? I take it that there are seperate sections of this line all connected together?? Pardon my inexperience, very much a green horn on these Cat's!!!
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 8:51 PM
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What do you mean a 4 part line??? I take it that there are seperate sections of this line all connected together?? Pardon my inexperience, very much a green horn on these Cat's!!!
That is pulleys on the system with 4 pulleys on each block of pulleys (side by side).
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Fri, Apr 10, 2009 8:59 PM
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