[quote="Barstart"]I have just returned from spending over nine hours with some of the best and most talented volunteer adult Boy Scout leaders in our area planning to put on a Wood Badge course in the fall. For those of you unfamiliar with the Wood Badge program, it is the premier adult leadership program in the Boys Scouts, and we train adult leaders in the most modern team building, listening, communication, planning, and mentoring skills used today over a challenging six-day course. This is an international program, so you blokes in Australia and the UK have got it as well. We train the leaders who train the leaders of the future. You need only look at a list of Eagle Scouts in positions of power and influence in the US to understand how important this role is. Each volunteer is taking a total of 13 + days out of their life this year, plus hundreds of dollars in expenses (not including lost wages), to put this on.
Why do I mention it? It is because the contents of my day were in stark contrast to some of the messages I read on this web site this evening.
We spent the day talking about personal Vision, Mission, and Values, and how we are going to guide our volunteers to develop and understand their own. I encourage you all to do the same.
I don't care about foul language or foul jokes, I use them myself more often than I should, but I do care about people publicly posting abusive messages on the website of a club that I have belonged to since 1996, and calling each other names and behaving in a manner that they would not dare to undertake if they were speaking in person on stage to a crowd of hundreds of people they do not know.
I'm not asking you to behave like Boy Scouts, I'm asking some of you to calm down and reflect on how your comments reflect poorly on your characters.[/quote]
Whilst I am not a "financial" or dues paying member of ACMOC these days (since Chapter 2 was decertified at the end of 2009), I whole heartedly agree with Barstart (Sue) and with Mike. I think that some people hide behind their anonymity on Forums (or is it Fora ?) and use it as an excuse for really bad behaviour. It must be a real headache for the moderators. If you caution or reprimand those people then their allies will attack you and if you don't the 'silent majority will do so, it's a no win situation for them. The only solution imho is to have a zero tolerance to such behaviour, or a 3 strikes and you're out (permanently !) syndrome. The problem is with all the aliases used, how do you stop a banned person just coming on again with a new alias ?
I too met Sue many years ago when I was visiting the US. I was really pleased to be able to see 1C1 in the process of being restored as well as many other interesting machines, all courtesy of Sue.
Best Regards, John
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
[quote="Barstart"]I have just returned from spending over nine hours with some of the best and most talented volunteer adult Boy Scout leaders in our area planning to put on a Wood Badge course in the fall. For those of you unfamiliar with the Wood Badge program, it is the premier adult leadership program in the Boys Scouts, and we train adult leaders in the most modern team building, listening, communication, planning, and mentoring skills used today over a challenging six-day course. This is an international program, so you blokes in Australia and the UK have got it as well. We train the leaders who train the leaders of the future. You need only look at a list of Eagle Scouts in positions of power and influence in the US to understand how important this role is. Each volunteer is taking a total of 13 + days out of their life this year, plus hundreds of dollars in expenses (not including lost wages), to put this on.
Why do I mention it? It is because the contents of my day were in stark contrast to some of the messages I read on this web site this evening.
We spent the day talking about personal Vision, Mission, and Values, and how we are going to guide our volunteers to develop and understand their own. I encourage you all to do the same.
I don't care about foul language or foul jokes, I use them myself more often than I should, but I do care about people publicly posting abusive messages on the website of a club that I have belonged to since 1996, and calling each other names and behaving in a manner that they would not dare to undertake if they were speaking in person on stage to a crowd of hundreds of people they do not know.
I'm not asking you to behave like Boy Scouts, I'm asking some of you to calm down and reflect on how your comments reflect poorly on your characters.[/quote]
Whilst I am not a "financial" or dues paying member of ACMOC these days (since Chapter 2 was decertified at the end of 2009), I whole heartedly agree with Barstart (Sue) and with Mike. I think that some people hide behind their anonymity on Forums (or is it Fora ?) and use it as an excuse for really bad behaviour. It must be a real headache for the moderators. If you caution or reprimand those people then their allies will attack you and if you don't the 'silent majority will do so, it's a no win situation for them. The only solution imho is to have a zero tolerance to such behaviour, or a 3 strikes and you're out (permanently !) syndrome. The problem is with all the aliases used, how do you stop a banned person just coming on again with a new alias ?
I too met Sue many years ago when I was visiting the US. I was really pleased to be able to see 1C1 in the process of being restored as well as many other interesting machines, all courtesy of Sue.
Best Regards, John
[quote="gauntjoh"]Whilst I am not a "financial" or dues paying member of ACMOC these days (since Chapter 2 was decertified at the end of 2009), I whole heartedly agree with Barstart (Sue) and with Mike. I think that some people hide behind their anonymity on Forums (or is it Fora ?) and use it as an excuse for really bad behaviour. It must be a real headache for the moderators. If you caution or reprimand those people then their allies will attack you and if you don't the 'silent majority will do so, it's a no win situation for them. The only solution imho is to have a zero tolerance to such behaviour, or a 3 strikes and you're out (permanently !) syndrome. The problem is with all the aliases used, how do you stop a banned person just coming on again with a new alias ?
I too met Sue many years ago when I was visiting the US. I was really pleased to be able to see 1C1 in the process of being restored as well as many other interesting machines, all courtesy of Sue.
Best Regards, John[/quote]
Nice to see you back John, and thankyou for reinforcing my comments, I sincerely hope that the BOD can see some constructive way forward that brings our Cat. collectors in the United Kingdom back into the ACMOC fold, it's very quiet on the Forum without your input.
regards
Mike
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Every day there are far mor guests than members
who wonder if they should join the site.
If they see and hear people breaking the rules
and getting by with it, they will not join in ! ! !
I also personaly do not like to see or hear it either.
Remember there are people of all ages
men/women and children looking and reading.
If you see or read these kinds of problems you should report
it to the Moderators who will handle it there own way ! ! !
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